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Oct 9 2008 10:10pm
Basically same scenario on each in a way..but a few things different that i'd like to discuss.

Recently I got some new gear..and I was thinking on two things..

One Lets say I have the gear to give my rogue meleer 147 dex base without statting a single point into dex. (This is ofc gear @ 55 + base stats)

at 55 I intend to use a dagger more than likely just because I wish to see what happens when you use a gg dagger on a dex rogue (in maze catas while you hide in the back ofc)

Well..I'm just curious obviously dex rogues pump dex..but if you have 147 already without putting any in dex..should you still pump your points into dex? or would some into strength be viable as im going to be using a dagger @ 55

Or maybe..even possibly stat them into Intelligence? That way you could basically have a hybrid..a GG critter + the ability to heal yourself thanks to pumping 60+ points into intelligence while leveling up..might be useful when welling?

Ok the other thing is lets say I were to pass mq and become a samurai..i also have gear to give it 147 dex @ 55 without putting any in dex between lvl 1-55 So I have 55 free stat points...Would it be wise to pump those points all into strength? If you plan on using daggers? So that @ 55 you'll have 100 str / 147 dex? and of course by the time you get to mq 115/147

Or is it better just to pump dex on a samurai as well? I have no experience with samurai's using daggers..so thats the bigger concearn than the rogue related issue.
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Oct 9 2008 10:31pm
Dont do any int, there is no reason to

if u want 140 dex with gear, then pump the rest into str.( same as sami)

thats about it sleep.gif

i did 120ish/140 on my last climb (120 to 140 is best)
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Oct 9 2008 11:22pm
Quote (X_killerbee_x @ Fri, Oct 10 2008, 04:31am)
Dont do any int, there is no reason to

if u want 140 dex with gear, then pump the rest into str.( same as sami)

thats about it sleep.gif

i did 120ish/140 on my last climb (120 to 140 is best)


im going to have about 150 dex with gear, so pumping strength on a dex rogue is still a good idea even though its a dex rogue? since i'll already have almost 150 dex from items / base dex?
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Oct 9 2008 11:32pm
<DIV class=quote1>Quote (TheNextBestThing @ Fri, Oct 10 2008, 12:22am)</DIV>
<DIV class=quote2><!--QuoteEBegin-->im going to have about 150 dex with gear, so pumping strength on a dex rogue is still a good idea even though its a dex rogue? since i'll already have almost 150 dex from items / base dex?[/QUOTE]

yes its a good idea to put those str in the rouge for more consistent dmg if ur using daggers, here this is my build where i can reach 120dex without a problem while not having any trouble with dmg.

nitiative points (+10): 5vit/5dex

1-31: all str

32-55: all dex

55+: all str

gears: weapon the higher ee the better
armor: +str (30+ recommended)
charm: +dex (30+ recommended)

as u can see the str in the beginning will help ur dmg build up so u dont have trouble soloing, near the mid 30s u start putting dex til 55 where this will get u around 80+dex or whenever u hit 120 with gears ( this is where ur crit starts to increase while ur dmg from the str in the beginning boost up ur mid lvls weapon), then switch back to str for the extra dmg since u will crit pretty much @ that much of dex. from my experience this helped me out the most rather then putting all points into dex or str all the way

This post was edited by chaoticslayer on Oct 9 2008 11:37pm
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Oct 10 2008 11:38am
[QUOTE=chaoticslayer,Fri, Oct 10 2008, 05:32am]<DIV class=quote1>Quote (TheNextBestThing @ Fri, Oct 10 2008, 12:22am)</DIV>
<DIV class=quote2><!--QuoteEBegin-->im going to have about 150 dex with gear, so pumping strength on a dex rogue is still a good idea even though its a dex rogue? since i'll already have almost 150 dex from items / base dex?[/QUOTE]

yes its a good idea to put those str in the rouge for more consistent dmg if ur using daggers, here this is my build where i can reach 120dex without a problem while not having any trouble with dmg.

nitiative points (+10): 5vit/5dex

1-31: all str

32-55: all dex

55+: all str

gears: weapon the higher ee the better
armor: +str (30+ recommended)
charm: +dex (30+ recommended)

as u can see the str in the beginning will help ur dmg build up so u dont have trouble soloing, near the mid 30s u start putting dex til 55 where this will get u around 80+dex or whenever u hit 120 with gears ( this is where ur crit starts to increase while ur dmg from the str in the beginning boost up ur mid lvls weapon), then switch back to str for the extra dmg since u will crit pretty much @ that much of dex. from my experience this helped me out the most rather then putting all points into dex or str all the way[/QUOTE]

Well..I'll hit almost 150 dex with no problem @ 55. No point in me pumping any at all into dex except maybe...like 3 lol

Why not just when im a lower level trying to solo rather than put points in dex from 32-55 Just use a level 25-35 + 25 dex charm to compensate? rather than wasting points in it?

If I did I could do something like this:

1-35 all str

+25 or more dex sc

+30 or more dex armor

+ base stat of 60 dex and base stat of +30 in str

@ 35 that should give me atleast 65 str / 110 dex even at only level 35.

Or you could go 1-35 all str +37 strength level 35 charm (I have one of these already) +30 or more dex armor + base stats for a total of

72 str / 90 dex..72/90 sounds plenty good enough for a level 35 to me..considering the fact this way I wont have to waste any stat points into anything except vita and I can put my base 10 completly into vita =\

and all other stats can pump str all the way to 71 o_o

In the end i'd end up with something like 100 str / 145-150 dex combination. @ MQ

which overall should cause my crits to be pretty nice..since all that str would boost the damage of my daggers then all that dex would cause my crits to be 4-5x the average damage..Lets say average damage is..meh 400-500 most of my crits would equal out around 1.5-2k

Of course this is using a 130+ ee dagger as a weapon

This post was edited by TheNextBestThing on Oct 10 2008 11:43am
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Oct 10 2008 12:44pm
well..all builds are different with different equip, i was just showing u my build to get to 120dex without running in to problems (120 is a recommendation from most people in ls) having decent amount of this and that. having my dex @ 120 or 170 i still have a crit of about 800-1300 using a lvl 50 141ee dagger (imo it increases my hits)
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