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Aug 25 2008 11:36am
I have been trying out a rogue/magician/fighter/samurai/paladin/monk hybrid caster and found out that i prefered fighter and paladin far more efficient then a magician or a rogue caster!

1.Why?
The first levels i go melee and it is pretty fast like in any melee character however if you want to be a full caster you'll have to look for like good mpk items and as everyone know it's expensive and you'll spend much less in this build,in the hybrid i go melee 1-40 and then start casting.

2.How does the build work?
Well from the start i pump 5points in vitality and the rest simply in intelligence,with the defence(heavy armors) the first 1-30 levels are not really a problem,at 30-40 i can start casting/melee which works quite good and is good in speed.

3.What's the difference between a full caster and a regular melee fighter/paladin in comparisement with the hybrid?
Like i said in point 1. to get through the first levels as full caster you'll need good mpk or very good dual regen gear,in the melee version most people slow down at higher levels because of the lack of damage or life steal(which helps the speed much)
In the hybrid i combine the power of the caster at higher levels and the speed of melee in the lower levels.

4.Yes but the rogue and magician have far more mana.
Yes,but they'll get hit far more hard and will go slower on lower levels.

4.Is the build expensive?
There aren't many cheap builds but this build can be quite cheap if you know what to search for.

5.What do you use?
Melee:
I use Clubs/Axes with at least 60ee until level 20 then i upgrade to 80+
I use a str charm from 1-15 and then a charm from 15-30 with 3life steal/14dex and some life per attack which helps alot when you combine it with a decent sword at higher levels.
I use an armor from 1-30 with at least 30dex and upgrade it from 30-40 with 3life steal
Casting:
My charms are more expensive(because that's the main part to save your fg for),my ice charm with 150ee+ from lvl 30-40 and then the beauty of my setup a fire charm lvl 40 with 187ee which can easily last me for mq but a decent 100ee charm can get you easily up to lvl 55 where you can upgrade again and fly to mq.
My casting armors are also quite easy,just get high as possible int on it.I use a 30+int robe and then change it at lvl 45 to my mq armor with 50+int on it
My weapons are almost the same as my armors.From 1-40 i use an int axe with 30int until i can use my mq club at lvl 50 with 55int.




This is like a small view on a possible Build guide,i prefer to have some opinions first smile.gif

thx!
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Aug 26 2008 01:11am
very nice build in my opinion.
i like the idea of melee then caster especially since mana is very slim at the low levels.
the only thing that would bug me would be the proficiences, but i guess if you went all one sort of weapon and all one sort of charm it wouldnt be that bad, very nice guide Graal, Good job. smile.gif
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Aug 26 2008 01:15am
really good guide, I just don't think on softcore i'd add anything to vit. Especially on a fighter that already seems to lack a lot sad.gif.


Really good guide, overall. Will definitely take this advice when I sami/paladin cast
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Aug 26 2008 05:14am
Quote (MysticaLLL @ Tue, Aug 26 2008, 08:11am)
very nice build in my opinion.
i like the idea of melee then caster especially since mana is very slim at the low levels.
the only thing that would bug me would be the proficiences, but i guess if you went all one sort of weapon and all one sort of charm it wouldnt be that bad, very nice guide Graal, Good job.  smile.gif


That's one point i have trying to figure out,however i would recommend swords(can be used by the fighter/sammy/paladin which work quite good and on charms i would go fire or ice charms! happy.gif

thx for the opinions,still looking for more before i make this a complete guide smile.gif
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Aug 26 2008 06:11am
I agree Graal that hybrid casters can be made extremaly effectively
it is often almost completey overlooked due to the onus on mana as the only strength

my fighter caster muter was a more effective well killer than the mage, the mass int was far easier to afford and once you have that and ee the well dies regardless of low mana

mage is faster

i was chatting with Dominic (Insanebobb) about this and he said melee is faster than casting for most people. i have never seen that tbh my full casting set up is well set early lvls and i just zip along. having messed about with sammy a little though for hybrid there (essential for casting as sam with any kind of effectiveness for me) have found the gear to complement hybrid is very easy to obtain (and ofc viable over many different classes).

as a pure caster what upsets me about these builds is the extra clicks required. it is heavy going at times. for hardcore it is an awesome charecter build. unless you purposefully push the envelope too far you have immense security from deaths.

nice guide though and needed. a great route into the game for many people.

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Aug 26 2008 01:48pm
Quote (wigwam @ Tue, Aug 26 2008, 01:11pm)
I agree Graal that hybrid casters can be made extremaly effectively
it is often almost completey overlooked due to the onus on mana as the only strength

my fighter caster muter was a more effective well killer than the mage, the mass int was far easier to afford and once you have that and ee the well dies regardless of low mana

mage is faster

i was chatting with Dominic (Insanebobb) about this and he said melee is faster than casting for most people. i have never seen that tbh my full casting set up is well set early lvls and i just zip along. having messed about with sammy a little though for hybrid there (essential for casting as sam with any kind of effectiveness for me) have found the gear to complement hybrid is very easy to obtain (and ofc viable over many different classes).

as a pure caster what upsets me about these builds is the extra clicks required. it is heavy going at times. for hardcore it is an awesome charecter build. unless you purposefully push the envelope too far you have immense security from deaths.

nice guide though and needed. a great route into the game for many people.


Thanks,

the only thing that might be more expensive is the mq equipment but there are many decent mq items for a decent price especially on this moment,if you know what excactly to look for this character can be one of the fastest builds around here happy.gif
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Aug 26 2008 02:42pm
Hehe, this explains why you were using fighter caster biggrin.gif
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Aug 26 2008 03:19pm
agree about hybrid casters

but

the 5points into vita is a bad idea

plenty of life

not enough mana
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Aug 26 2008 03:37pm
Quote (d4rkw1nd30 @ Tue, Aug 26 2008, 10:19pm)
agree about hybrid casters

but

the 5points into vita is a bad idea

plenty of life

not enough mana


That's discussable however i prefer the little more defense and life at my hybrid and works quite good,but it's more like a habit happy.gif
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Aug 26 2008 04:29pm
Quote (Brantallica @ Tue, Aug 26 2008, 03:15am)
really good guide, I just don't think on softcore i'd add anything to vit.  Especially on a fighter that already seems to lack a lot sad.gif.


Really good guide, overall.  Will definitely take this advice when I sami/paladin cast


By lack a lot, I mean lacks a lot of Intell. Just to make this clear.
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