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Nov 16 2008 10:17am
Hi,

Which of casters makes the biggest dmg ? ( dont care about life/chances to survive vs mele dps )

Which of Dest/Order ?


Also id like to know, which character will be best suport for maruder ( or maruder will be best suport for )


*Regards
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Nov 16 2008 12:06pm
I assume you're talking about Bright Wizard and sorcerer/sorceress they're almost the same except that they really dropped the bomb on the sorcerer, it's alot harder to find items that have intelligence on them, it's not uncommon to get staffs with toughness and other random stats like willpower.
You'll see alot of this in inf rewards.
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Nov 16 2008 06:53pm
Bright wizard by far. Bright wizards all spec into DoT because 1 dot tic = 1k+ damage. They also have alot of better abilities that the sorcerer doesn't have.

However, patch 1.0.5 is nerfing BW and buffing sorc, so not sure.
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<DIV class=quote1>Quote (NekoChild @ Mon, Nov 17 2008, 12:53am)</DIV>
<DIV class=quote2><!--QuoteEBegin-->Bright wizard by far. Bright wizards all spec into DoT because 1 dot tic = 1k+ damage. They also have alot of better abilities that the sorcerer doesn't have.

However, patch 1.0.5 is nerfing BW and buffing sorc, so not sure.[/QUOTE]

mostly ppl spec into dot so they can tab thru the entire other army doting everything so they can get the highest dmg on the score board at the end of the scen imo

however it can be argued its beter to be able to fry single targets to death quicker rather than wounding mostly everyone but not neccesarily finishing them all off

its not really an arguable subject tho, they both have pros and cons

a team with multiple brightwizards could probably benefit from a balance, especially in instances of focusing fire on a single target, perhaps in less open more confined terrain or cases when the other team is not sticking togethor and trickling towards you by the 2s and 3s, or simply someone that is effective at finishing off the most wounded in a group before he can escape/get heals and thus capitalize on the more mass-damaging efforts of the others

if i had to give any opinion i would say that the direct dmg spec is underated simply due to the fact that there is probably a shortage of them in any random given group with multiple BW's where a coordinated balance would be ideal, this due to the fact that most players (especially americans) tend to be self-serving and not team orientated. Most would rather take actions that reward them with greater (perceived by others) glory, or personal xp/renown.

for example t4 serpents passage scenario when the team is winning everyone wants to farm renown and xp at the other teams wagon rather than run the salvage part. You will even see some teams even, where NOONE ends up running the part and they dont even make 500 at the end.. One team was stomping us at our wagon and noone was running the part, someone from our team went all the way around them, took the part, brought it to our wagon, got killed and droped the part but we were able to protect it at our wagon the rest of the 9 minutes. this team that should have beat us 500 to 20 was forced to settle for a 240 to 120 victory ( they had to keep throwing guys at the part to stop us from picking it up again, and thus dying alot)

an embarrasing situation for what should have been the superior side, and all becuase of self-serving mentality in a team orientated game. Concievably, the same could be viewed upon those who DoT spec their BW for the sole purpose of posting screenies of their dmg at the end i think

This post was edited by qhorne on Nov 18 2008 11:03am
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mostly ppl spec into dot so they can tab thru the entire other army doting everything so they can get the highest dmg on the score board at the end of the scen imo

for example t4 serpents passage scenario when the team is winning everyone wants to farm renown and xp at the other teams wagon rather than run the salvage part. You will even see some teams even, where NOONE ends up running the part and they dont even make 500 at the end.. One team was stomping us at our wagon and noone was running the part, someone from our team went all the way around them, took the part, brought it to our wagon, got killed and droped the part but we were able to protect it at our wagon the rest of the 9 minutes. this team that should have beat us 500 to 20 was forced to settle for a 240 to 120 victory ( they had to keep throwing guys at the part to stop us from picking it up again, and thus dying alot)


BWs that do nothing but tab dot DO NOT end up with the highest dmg, unless theres no other BWs with brains in the scenario. I played a round just tab dotting everything, and was outdamaged by a BW 3 levels lower by about 30k dmg. Fact of the matter is, you need to fire some of those brain cells up there in order to do the best possible dmg, and to get the most XP.

Also, after a couple dozen rounds of SP I've only seen 2 or 3 games where either side made an attempt at capping the salvage part. Most people in T4 are high 30s or 40s, and don't really care about the XP bonus from winning the scenario by a big margin. I've even seen losing teams not bother going for the part, because they want the scenario to run the full 15mins so they can farm as much renown as possible. It's really not even about XP, because you'd get more XP by both killing and winning.
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Nov 19 2008 10:38pm
Quote (Tdi @ Sun, Nov 16 2008, 08:17am)
Hi,

Which of casters makes the biggest dmg ? ( dont care about life/chances to survive vs mele dps )

Which of Dest/Order ?


Also id like to know, which character will be best suport for maruder ( or maruder will be best suport for )


*Regards


bright wizard and sorceress have the biggest dmg
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Quote (Tdi @ Sun, 16 Nov 2008, 17:17)
Hi,

Which of casters makes the biggest dmg ? ( dont care about life/chances to survive vs mele dps )

Which of Dest/Order ?


Also id like to know, which character will be best suport for maruder ( or maruder will be best suport for )


*Regards


bright wizzard ofc
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[QUOTE=Rofii,Thu, Nov 20 2008, 02:14am]BWs that do nothing but tab dot DO NOT end up with the highest dmg, unless theres no other BWs with brains in the scenario. I played a round just tab dotting everything, and was outdamaged by a BW 3 levels lower by about 30k dmg. Fact of the matter is, you need to fire some of those brain cells up there in order to do the best possible dmg, and to get the most XP. [/quote]

you said use brains... can you please xplain, you didnt even just say anything. and the fact u tab dotted and a bw 3 lvls lower beat u once doesnt say anything either, the bw 3 lvls below you was also tab dotting for all i know... wtf was the point of this message it conveyed no actual information or substantiated insight...how do i know you werent lvl 8 and the bw was lvl 5, buffing him to basicaly lvl 8, im not saying your wrong, i dont even play a BW so wtf do i know first hand, i know what i know from what others say combined with what would apear to make sence tho thats about it. If your going to give contrary feedback at least support it with something tangible someone could actually consider :/ explain what you mean by 'fire some of those brain cells' becuase in technical terms as far as what someone should do as a BW to do more dmg than tab dotting has about as much meaning as... well.. nothing

[qoute]Also, after a couple dozen rounds of SP I've only seen 2 or 3 games where either side made an attempt at capping the salvage part. Most people in T4 are high 30s or 40s, and don't really care about the XP bonus from winning the scenario by a big margin. I've even seen losing teams not bother going for the part, because they want the scenario to run the full 15mins so they can farm as much renown as possible. It's really not even about XP, because you'd get more XP by both killing and winning.[/QUOTE]

winning as in getting the part yes, everyone will get much more xp (especially those that were by the wagon, farming). and of course you have your high 30's or 40's that arent as interested in the xp, but in a team sence, you kind of want ALL your players to be high 30's if not 40's... so making sure you cap the 500 pts, in addition to farming the renown, really helps those lower guys boost up their level faster.
going from 40 to 41 renown for a couple people isnt going to increase combat effectivness in a random mixed team as is a couple people going from 30-31, or 31-32 and so on. a single rank gain makes you a hell of a lot stronger than a single renown gain (unless for obvious reasons like the renown rank u just got allows you to wear a set of badass renown gear etc.)... but regardless
its not that i dont think 40's and high 30's should NOT try to farm their renown in sacrifice to give xp to lower levels or something, the fact is that when winning that much just a little bit of effort could be made to ensure someone is running the part so that even the lower level guys in the team can recieve maximum benefit from the current ass stomping in that scenario, not just all the 40s making their renown and IGNORING the part, that just fucks the lower ranking ppl on your team.
one would *THINK*

and of COURSE your going to fucking stretch it out the entire 15 minutes and not just cap to 500, why would you assume i meant some retard shit like 'its all about the part, cap to 500' , thats retarded
you save the last cap, always.

i get the feeling that you just wanted to respond with some retarded shit just for the sake of being contrary

if what i said dont make sence actualy fuking substantiate it and not just contradict it to be a fag

This post was edited by qhorne on Nov 27 2008 12:52am
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