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Sep 7 2015 07:26am
I just saw that new update is up and decided to grind with my wd. Which build is strongest right now for grifts? I see a lot different builds on diablofans.com. Is the new set better than zunimassas and jade? And if im not wrong helltooth is best right now?
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Sep 7 2015 07:32am
Helltooth is pretty strong right now. Personally I've managed to do GR55 solo without much ancient gear (only 2 pieces of ancient).

The Carnevil build is still pretty viable this season, but I am having a lot more fun with Helltooth.
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Sep 7 2015 09:02am
Carnevil kicks ass. Did a 59, working on a 60.
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Sep 7 2015 09:25am
Quote (Jstraws @ Sep 7 2015 10:02am)
Carnevil kicks ass. Did a 59, working on a 60.


Link build please?

I've been working on mine but haven't really found enough gg gear to reach high grifts. Also not pushing it too far cuz hardcore.

I've cleared 30 pretty easily so far

This post was edited by Brinkles on Sep 7 2015 09:25am
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Sep 7 2015 09:29am
Carnevil = Helltooth (acid cloud / zombie bears) > Arach/Manajuma > Jade

Europe did 69 with carnevil, helltoth AC and bears
US did 69 with helltooth AC and Bears

Carnevil offers more group benefits, but also pretty boring to play imo.
Helltooth requires a lot more attention, but also lags the game.

Carnevil = http://www.diablofans.com/builds/56540-2-3-carnevil
(Gems are wrong, use Simplicity Strength, Bane of Trapped, Gogok of Swiftness)
(Skills are wrong, drop Hex and Acid cloud, and use Piranhado and Grasp of the Dead)

Helltooth (Bears) = http://www.diablofans.com/builds/57408-2-3-66-zombie-bears-firewall-helltooth
Helltooth (AC) = http://www.diablofans.com/builds/57477-2-3-acid-cloud-65-grifts-helltooth-fire-and-ice

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Sep 7 2015 11:25am
Quote (Lancet_Jade @ 7 Sep 2015 17:29)
Carnevil = Helltooth (acid cloud / zombie bears) > Arach/Manajuma > Jade

Europe did 69 with carnevil, helltoth AC and bears
US did 69 with helltooth AC and Bears

Carnevil offers more group benefits, but also pretty boring to play imo.
Helltooth requires a lot more attention, but also lags the game.

Carnevil = http://www.diablofans.com/builds/56540-2-3-carnevil
(Gems are wrong, use Simplicity Strength, Bane of Trapped, Gogok of Swiftness)
(Skills are wrong, drop Hex and Acid cloud, and use Piranhado and Grasp of the Dead)

Helltooth (Bears) = http://www.diablofans.com/builds/57408-2-3-66-zombie-bears-firewall-helltooth
Helltooth (AC) = http://www.diablofans.com/builds/57477-2-3-acid-cloud-65-grifts-helltooth-fire-and-ice


I tested carnevil out and i liked it. I put Mask of Jeram on kanai's cube, dunno if it was good idea but what ever.
My question is: Should i enchant physical dmg or poison dmg on amulet and wrist?
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Sep 7 2015 12:02pm
Quote (Lerppu @ Sep 7 2015 05:25pm)
I tested carnevil out and i liked it. I put Mask of Jeram on kanai's cube, dunno if it was good idea but what ever.
My question is: Should i enchant physical dmg or poison dmg on amulet and wrist?


U should cube Carnevil or the 100% pet dmg helm, and use the other. Cube rorg, use focus reistrant, use Stormbracers, zuniset, and fetish summons belt. Use smk, cube dod.
Pirana wave of mutilation = 60% dmg add with Stormbracers.
Horrify, mana Rune or area Rune.
Spirit walk jaunt
Fetish army
Totem with 30% dmg Rune
Poison ddagger stun Rune.

Gems: simplify, bane the trapped, enforce, some uses swiftness instead of enforce.

Get ias on gloves and dagger. I Also have ias on one of the rings.
Psn % dmg hwhere possible.
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Sep 7 2015 12:21pm
Quote (gel87 @ 7 Sep 2015 20:02)
U should cube Carnevil or the 100% pet dmg helm, and use the other. Cube rorg, use focus reistrant, use Stormbracers, zuniset, and fetish summons belt. Use smk, cube dod.
Pirana wave of mutilation = 60% dmg add with Stormbracers.
Horrify, mana Rune or area Rune.
Spirit walk jaunt
Fetish army
Totem with 30% dmg Rune
Poison ddagger stun Rune.

Gems: simplify, bane the trapped, enforce, some uses swiftness instead of enforce.

Get ias on gloves and dagger. I Also have ias on one of the rings.
Psn % dmg hwhere possible.


TY
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Sep 7 2015 03:19pm
I use the ZC Bear build. Was doing quite well, then realized we had only 2 dpsers (me and monk), and 2 leeches (monk and barb), so we couldn't complete 60.

I must admit, ZB positioning is crucial. Against many mobs, it's ok where you are (depends on your support), but at RG, might get tricky.
I wasn't using BBV, I should have by dropping Pnado.

I also have the AC build, but havn't tried in groups yet.

I disslike the Carnevil build, I'm missing the Pet helm. Moving around like a DH aint my style.

Also, I use a Soj. I think I'm over 400P now, and still ont 1 Restraint dropped, lol.
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Sep 7 2015 03:41pm
Quote (gel87 @ Sep 7 2015 01:02pm)
U should cube Carnevil or the 100% pet dmg helm, and use the other. Cube rorg, use focus reistrant, use Stormbracers, zuniset, and fetish summons belt. Use smk, cube dod.
Pirana wave of mutilation = 60% dmg add with Stormbracers.
Horrify, mana Rune or area Rune.
Spirit walk jaunt
Fetish army
Totem with 30% dmg Rune
Poison ddagger stun Rune.

Gems: simplify, bane the trapped, enforce, some uses swiftness instead of enforce.

Get ias on gloves and dagger. I Also have ias on one of the rings.
Psn % dmg hwhere possible.


Focus/restraint better than CoE/xx (zodiac or so or etc)?
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