Which is better?



Making a choice between these A & B would be a dilemma for some Barbarians.
As per thread below, most people couldn't make up their mind.
Results: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65071260&f=68

Bearing in mind that Offhand dps will also affects WW damage, I posted a poll to ask public about the importance of WW damage, and over forty people have participated in this poll. This is a pertinent issue to discuss as it will affect your decision when choosing an Offhand.
Poll: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65086715&f=68



The conclusion from the poll is that we don't really know the real answer.

Hence, I have decided to test out the actual damage of ww through the use of
two different methods in killing Azmodan at MP10: (using both WW & RLTW Versus Only RLTW)
RLTW: Run Like The Wind(sprint)
WW: Whirlwind

I have previously posted this Test on Discussion, but decided to repost this on Strategy & Guides too as I have updated the test results.

Using the time taken to kill Azmodan will be the most accurate way to find out the proportion of damage from WW.
In view of possible variance in the test, I have extended my sample size to total of 5. I understand that this is still a small sample size.
Would definitely extend this sample size in future to give more reliable results.

My bad for my initial assumption that sample size of 1 is sufficient & reliable. And ty those people who gave me valuable input to improve the reliability of this test.
Feel free to provide feedbacks in making this test more reliable.

Just a brief description of my stats.
I am a Dual Wield Barb with around 265k (with SOJ) Buffed DPS.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/jayleo-6312/hero/19872277
I have 2228str and
In WOTB mode, my mainhand APS is 2.17 (6.67 ticks per second) & Offhand APS is 2.51(8.67 ticks per second), (source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6037344497)
with 63.5critical chance, 519critical damage.

For the consistency for the test of RLTW only, I ensure that my OH is the last weapon swung before using Sprint, i.e. consistent 8.67 ticks per second.
And for all the runs, no follower was used.

1st Test Run:
ww & rltw: 1min 45secs
rltw only: 2min 30secs

2nd Test Run:
ww & rltw: 1min 41secs
rltw only: 2min 28secs

3rd Test Run:
ww & rltw: 1min 37secs
rltw only: 2min 27secs

4th Test Run:
ww & rltw: 1min 50secs
rltw only: 2min 23secs

5th Test Run:
ww & rltw: 1min 43secs
rltw only: 2min 28secs

Average time taken for ww & rltw is 103.2seconds (from first hit)
Average time taken for rltw only is 147.2seconds (from first hit)

Computation
X = ww dps, Y = rltw dps, HP = 138,425,408 (azmodan's mp10 health), T1 = time while doing both - 103.2sec, T2 = time while doing just rltw, 147.2sec.
T1(X+Y) = HP --> X+Y = 1,341,331.47, the total Damage Per Second I was doing to kill azmodan in 103.2 seconds.
T2(Y) = HP --> Y = 940,390.00, the dps I was doing to kill azmodan in 147.2 seconds.
X = 1,341,331.47 - Y --> X = 400,941.47, the dps that using ww added.
X/(X+Y) = 400,941.47 / 1,341,331.47 = .2989 or 29.89% of your total dps came from WW

Take Note
This 29.89% is never 100% accurate for every single Barbarian as it still vary slightly depending on the types of weapons used.
Bearing in mind that my Mainhand dps is 1160, and Offhand dps is 760, the actual ww damage output will be lowered as compared to Skorn Barb or Dual Wield Barb which has a more similar MH/OH dps.

On top of that, OH is the last weapon swung before using Sprint for my RLTW only test, i.e. consistent 8.67 ticks per second which is higher than my average ticks of 7.67 per second. [(6.67+8.67)/2]

Taking into account of these factors, this 29.89% result is an underestimation. My opinion is that the proportion of damage of WW will be more if one were to use Two Handed Weapon, or a More similar Mh/OH dps Dual weapons.

Hope u guys will have a clearer idea on the importance of WW now.

In conclusion
Since we know that OH dps does affect part of the 30% damage output, we should never choose a insanely low dps OH(200-500dps) now.
However,
High stats with good CD n APS offhand would still be the main factor to consider because it affects your 70% damage output.
Strive for a balance is the key importance.

useful post ! THumbs up for the effort you put in ! Now the best way to expand this would be to have a larger sample size .... volunteers please stand up !

Good job. Helpful for sure.

Yep. Would appreciate if someone could extend further for the samples.

If possible, do a similar test using skorn would be great!



Thank you!

Bump for awareness. Hopefully someone will add in a similar test results for 2handed weapon

thankyou man, this was needed for all those going around saying even a 200dps oh will do.

awesome job!

gg post

Yep! Totally agree. Thanks!



Thank you!

Isnt there a "like" or a "recommend" button here?

will keep that in mind when i make my baba