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Mar 6 2013 06:38pm
I already said it for u dude, put that ring on ur ass.... LOL @ that ring lmfao i will need to let my eyes bleed killing ubers to make one like that...
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Mar 6 2013 06:40pm
Quote (Firemace @ Mar 6 2013 08:38pm)
I already said it for u dude, put that ring on ur ass.... LOL @ that ring lmfao i will need to let my eyes bleed killing ubers to make one like that...


*ON* my ass or UP my ass? I don't really have a storage spot for rings on my ass. And you never know, you could get lucky. I got pretty lucky with crafting but have hit a terribly dry spell now. I seriously want to know what ring combo I could use, because one gives more dmg and the other more survivability.
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Mar 6 2013 06:41pm
Quote (TK_Zerothehero @ Mar 6 2013 05:37pm)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZerotheHero-1954/hero/5108371

Check out my hellfire ring and tell me how you would manage to work a SOJ into your build, lol. I really have a hard time and currently gear-swap between nats and soj depending if I'm fighting elites or not. With ubers, for Ghom and Kulle I have to wear the nats for the ehp and for Skeleton King I wear soj for a faster kill.


Good HF ring. I just like using a SOJ though. It's on all the time for me. 6%cc on WOL makes up the paper dmg loss on whites. 2.25 spirit regen on mine is gg for me.

I would recommend you to use a wol soj all the time, but it's up to you really. Your HF is nice, so it's not like you are missing out on things.

BTW, I do have a HF that gives me like 35k dmg over my soj, I just don't like it.

Question, is there any particular reason why you went with that nat's ring? How much was that?

The all res is so little. You can get a better dps one for not too much gold these days.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Mar 6 2013 06:42pm
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Mar 6 2013 06:42pm
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Good HF ring. I just like using a SOJ though. It's on all the time for me. 6%cc on WOL makes up the paper dmg loss on whites. 2.25 spirit regen on mine is gg for me.

I would recommend you to use a wol soj all the time, but it's up to you really. Your HF is nice, so it's not like you are missing out on things.


Sounds good> I need to invest in a better SOJ which is probably why I'm finding it's not as great as nats sometimes; my soj is like 23%....so I definitely need to do some shopping. Thx for the input!

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Mar 6 2013 06:43pm
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Sounds good> I need to invest in a better SOJ which is probably why I'm finding it's not as great as nats sometimes; my soj is like 23%....so I definitely need to do some shopping. Thx for the input!


No problem man.

My soj was 100mil I think.

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Mar 6 2013 07:22pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Mar 6 2013 08:43pm)
No problem man.

My soj was 100mil I think.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KimSulki84-1308/hero/7645093


Here's a question Firemace and I were arguing about regarding SOJs. If it says +6% to cold damage, TO lightning damage, to holy damage, does it only add +bonus damage to a pre-existing skill (like WoL is holy, FoT lightning) or do you get added 6% cold damage. I said you don't get cold dmg unless you actually DO cold dmg in an attack. JW
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Mar 6 2013 07:25pm
Quote (TK_Zerothehero @ Mar 6 2013 10:22pm)
Here's a question Firemace and I were arguing about regarding SOJs. If it says +6% to cold damage, TO lightning damage, to holy damage, does it only add +bonus damage to a pre-existing skill (like WoL is holy, FoT lightning) or do you get added 6% cold damage. I said you don't get cold dmg unless you actually DO cold dmg in an attack. JW


As i said. Put a cold soj on ur scoundrel and see. It ill snare things. His attacks without cold soj arent cold attacks...
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Mar 6 2013 07:26pm
Quote (TK_Zerothehero @ Mar 6 2013 06:22pm)
Here's a question Firemace and I were arguing about regarding SOJs. If it says +6% to cold damage, TO lightning damage, to holy damage, does it only add +bonus damage to a pre-existing skill (like WoL is holy, FoT lightning) or do you get added 6% cold damage. I said you don't get cold dmg unless you actually DO cold dmg in an attack. JW


It doesn't matter what elemental dmg you have on the sojs.

And even the cold dmg sojs don't work with some skills that we have.

try picking up a cheap 1mil cold soj and try it. FoT doesn't snare mobs. I think ti's because the FoT is lighting dmg skill. Crippling Wave/rising tide snares mobs since its non elemental dmg skill.

but really, the merit of having soj is not those elemental dmg increase mod, it's all same.

the soj is gg because of it's elite dmg / wol cc / spirit regen.
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Mar 6 2013 07:28pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Mar 6 2013 09:26pm)
It doesn't matter what elemental dmg you have on the sojs.

And even the cold dmg sojs don't work with some skills that we have.

try picking up a cheap 1mil cold soj and try it. FoT doesn't snare mobs. I think ti's because the FoT is lighting dmg skill. Crippling Wave/rising tide snares mobs since its non elemental dmg skill.

but really, the merit of having soj is not those elemental dmg increase mod, it's all same.

the soj is gg because of it's elite dmg / wol cc / spirit regen.


That makes sense - I did see there IS actual added cold damage but it would make sense for the cold not not override a preexisting elemental dmg. I wish I could search AH by MONKskill: WoL
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Mar 6 2013 07:54pm
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Does this mean that character sheet dps at the time of casting Sweeping Wind no longer matters?

Meaning an active Sweeping Winds dps will fluctuate if our dps goes up or down?


Not exactly.

Some stats are still snapshotted. elemental dmg% is still snapshotted, as is LS (last time I tested), so blind still buffs SW the same way it always did, and a skorn with LS, same deal.
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