Quote (Firemace @ Feb 28 2013 11:51am)

With the TR build i lost defense, all resist and life... I had actually to change ally for serenity...

Quote (Firemace @ Feb 28 2013 10:51am)

With the TR build i lost defense, all resist and life... I had actually to change ally for serenity...

Quote (spanky6390 @ Feb 28 2013 10:54am)

Thats why I'm currently dw

I felt you would have to be top tier to run MP7+ with a TR build efficiently

Quote (Firemace @ Feb 28 2013 06:02pm)

Was looking on ur bthor surcoat, i just win an 80 dex/199 vita/80all res/40psn res one 2 minutes ago for TWO MILLION GOLD LOLOLOL was 1.5m the bid and 1:30h to end auction, to guarantee that i put a bid of 25m gold, now i checked and won for 2m, 23m back to me lolol! Ill use it to boost my resists for TR build, 120all res total for me!

And BTW, why da frick u puted an rad emerald on ur helm lololol go put an amethyst or rubi duuude!

Quote (TK_Zerothehero @ Feb 28 2013 06:55pm)

I think you're good for now and you should focus on mp 0-3 and get dem paragonz up higher. I tried telling my friend the same thing and he keeps wanting to upgrade, which is understandable. Keep in mind each paragon level gives you +mainstat, +vita, +off stats (i forget exactly the breakdown, but maybe 2 dex, 1 str 1 int 2-3 vita maybe) so that's at least a difference of 80 dex, 80-120 vita from paragon 0 to 40. Given the new exp system it's well worth it to run some paragons now. Your vita is low and could use a amethyst in your helm but I would put a ruby in there and run lower mp trying to maximize your EXP.

Another guy asked this too - I'd recommend running paragon like this, for people who haven't pre-upgraded to great gear beforehand (can apply to you too Sex, though you may need to alter the levels so they make sense):

Paragon
0-10 -- mp0-1 (or even paragon 0 through to 20)
10-20 -- mp 1-2
20-40 -- mp 2-3
40-60 -- mp 3-4
60-70+ -- any mp you can farm like it's mp0 (so mp 3,4,5)

I think the best bonus per low mp level starts in at mp 3 so I tried to efficiently get to that mp. Tweak it for your own taste.

If you're getting essences key runs or just want to feel tough, then swap out some gear or skills and run mp 7-10 but bear in mind your playstyle will alter and it will take much longer to kill a pack. You should be able to one-shot white mobs (regardless of mp) with your bells and get an elite pack down in 10-20 seconds (lower mp, 7-10 will be longer ofc) for some efficient farming. If it takes too long or you die constantly, the mp lvl is too high so set it back down and keep getting those free stats each lvl.

I totally just made this up off my head but this is the rough guidelines I laid out for my buddy and what I followed getting from 0-65 pre 1.0.7, after the patch i just got 70-73 faster and been messing around. Again, not words to live by but hopefully it helps. Find what works for you.

Quote (jinshin85 @ 28 Feb 2013 18:39)

OH: Try finding a slow weapon with high dps for heavy bell dmg. If you want to stick with the weapon for pretty long time, spend 100-150mil.

If you get your ehp up to high lvl, you won't need to swap much. When I used to dual wield around 190k dmg with WKL, I swapped like 1 time per two runs doing mp10 uber runs.

If you really want to go dual lifesteal on your monk, get a lifesteal EF with +1100 dps.

Quote (Nekony @ Feb 28 2013 10:57am)

I compared my current EF to a 1,05k one and lost only 3k dps. Let's say I get a decent one with about 1k dps, that will be around 5-6k dps loss (considering I didn't use a gem to compare them). I assume that being able to pretty much stand in almost everything will allow me to deal more damage overall, and maybe I'll be even able to play without serenity or STI?
Good point on the OH though, didn't really think about getting a slow one yet too much, but since I love bells, this is probably the way to go. Would you rather get a higher dps one without critdmg or one with about 50% cd but less dps? 150m can already get me a 4x cd, 12x dex, socket, high lifesteel, 1080 dps axe.

Quote (jinshin85 @ 28 Feb 2013 19:03)

To be able to facetank everything on mp10, you should try hitting 250k dmg / 70k life / 5500 armor / 700 all res / +5.5% lifesteal.

I would get one with crit dmg since monks normally have high crit chance. crit dmg scales so much better.

Quote (jinshin85 @ Feb 28 2013 11:57am)

It's definitely challenging when you are not used to the build. But really, once you get used to it, you can do it pretty easily. 350 all res / 3500 armor / 55k life are like minimum i would say for TR/Bell with +150k dmg.

Spanky, you can coming on any time soon?

Quote (spanky6390 @ Feb 28 2013 01:54pm)

Thats why I'm currently dw

I felt you would have to be top tier to run MP7+ with a TR build efficiently

Quote (TK_Zerothehero @ Feb 28 2013 11:32am)

My buddy has this problem and I think the problem, at least with him, is that he tries to play mp7+ the same way you play mp0-1 with TR as your main attack when it is NOT your main attack. Bells are the main attack, then use FoT:quickening or your spirit gen when you run low, TR to transit between mobs. Spirit management is key and you should be simultaneously watching both orbs like they are your life; make sure when either one gets below 50% you rectify that - if your life is dropping spam some bells to lifesteal, if your spirit is getting too low don't let it, but start using fist of thunder to generate more spirit.

Serenity is good, but ally is very valuable as a distraction and spirit generator.

tl;dr - use TR for movement, WoL bells for your attacks, manage spirit/life actively