thanks for the thread

This post was edited by ffunkymonky on Dec 29 2012 06:10am

welcome

I didn't do as detailed as you on Page one, but I did a similar test of my own.

I used Gohm MP 9 for Fast easy access and the ability to kill with 100% WW skills.

My Off hand is about 920 base dps

I found a 700 base dps very similar str CD weapon and wanted to test the same theory.

then I bought a 250 dps OH same stats rinse repeat.

DPS - Avg time to kill gohm average from 5 kills
920 = 1 min 5 sec
700 = 1 min 12 sec
250 = 1 min 40 sec

I think there has got to be more than 40% dam from the OH to get that much variation, but not huge to where a 700 dps works nearly as well.
not a number cruncher per say, but I thought this was a fair test

Ty for input.

Mind posting the pics of your 3 offhand?

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wow nice job great info

Just a brief description of my updated stats.
I am a Dual Wield Barb with around 400k (with SOJ) Buffed DPS.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/jayleo-6312/hero/19872277
I have 2593str and
In WOTB mode, my mainhand APS is 2.55(8.67 ticks per second) & Offhand APS is 3.08(10 ticks per second), (source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6037344497)
with 67critical chance, 526critical damage.

For the consistency for the test of RLTW only, I ensure that my OH is the last weapon swung before using Sprint, i.e. consistent 10 ticks per second.
And for all the runs, no follower was used.

Average time taken for ww & rltw is 71seconds (from first hit)
Average time taken for rltw only is 103seconds (from first hit)

Computation
X = ww dps, Y = rltw dps, HP = 138,425,408 (azmodan's mp10 health), T1 = time while doing both - 71sec, T2 = time while doing just rltw, 103sec.
T1(X+Y) = HP --> X+Y = 1,949,653.63, the total Damage Per Second I was doing to kill azmodan in 71 seconds.
T2(Y) = HP --> Y = 1,343,936.00, the dps I was doing to kill azmodan in 103 seconds.
X = 1,949,653.63 - Y --> X = 605,717.63, the dps that using ww added.
X/(X+Y) = 605,717.63 / 1,949,653.63 = .3106 or 31.06% of your total dps came from WW

Take Note
This 31.06% is never 100% accurate for every single Barbarian as it still vary slightly depending on the types of weapons used.
Bearing in mind that my Mainhand dps is 1291, and Offhand dps is 760, the actual ww damage output will be lowered as compared to Skorn Barb or Dual Wield Barb which has a more similar MH/OH dps.

On top of that, OH is the last weapon swung before using Sprint for my RLTW only test, i.e. consistent 10 ticks per second which is higher than my average ticks of 9.335 per second. [(8.67+10)/2]

Taking into account of these factors, this 31.06% result is an underestimation. My opinion is that the proportion of damage of WW will be more if one were to use Two Handed Weapon, or a More similar Mh/OH dps Dual weapons.

Hope u guys will have a clearer idea on the importance of WW now.

In conclusion
This updated result is consistent with my previous results. Since we know that OH dps does affect part of the 30% damage output, we should never choose a insanely low dps OH(200-500dps) now.
However,
High stats with good CD n APS offhand would still be the main factor to consider because it affects your 70% damage output.
Strive for a balance is the key importance.

Bump

testing only with 10tps isnt very accurate really.. unless when you play you are constantly making sure to use OH before sprinting which is rediculous

also if using overpower this varies results as well since with nados+WW you will be resetting OP cooldown faster

but doesnt really matter since the fact that you shouldnt use an insanely low dps offhand is true

(I say 250-300 DPS difference is about as much as you should go)

and for your barb.. Ideally you should use a sword OH since you will hit same APS breakpoint with it and have more damage (and swords tend to be cheaper) but im sure u already knew that!

This post was edited by Tboner on Dec 31 2012 09:03pm

Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated!!

For the test of using only RLTW, i actually spam sprint repeatedly without using bash. Sustaining fury n wotb is not an issue which explains why spamming Bash again is not required. Hence, this will ensure that my offhand is the last weapon swung before i cast sprint.

Also for consistency of my test, I didn't use overpower as what u mentioned. I only use bash(to generate fury sufficient enough to cast my first nado), then nado and ww only.

Yep sword is definitely a better offhand since bp is the same for my dagger. I'm actually contemplating on purchasing a dagger with 1.65aps. This allows me to achieve 3.33APS (12ticks per second) breakpoint for my offhand. What's your opinion on this?

This post was edited by infallibleleo on Jan 1 2013 07:58am