Say I have 2.45 aps on my MH in WOTB, and 2.67 on my OH, I hit the 23 tick bp on MH, 26 tick bp on OH so on average thats 24.5 ticks per nado.

This is wrong. the tornadoes use the aps from your last swing. Always start rltw after hitting with your offhand.

WW damage base only on MH?

So, good choise is take low DPS EF with socket and CD?

This post was edited by Lucky17 on Nov 24 2012 05:51am

WW/bash/frenzy dmg is based on both weapons. Only the tornado dmg is based of ur MH's base dmg.

Cant tell if trolling.. Axe/mace is best

18 ticks means each tornado u spawn will tick 18 times





That is too much micro managing to worry about.. this would mean every recast of sprint u would have to stop and bash/frenzy to make sure ur on OH since it changes while u ww.. would end up lowering ur effective dps more then just not worrying about it and keep spinning





as OH yes, tornados work only by MH and they are 60-70% of ur dmg

This post was edited by Tboner on Nov 24 2012 11:26am

i would like to bring up an issue about reflect health linked packs.
This seems to wreck my barb, and reflect is NEVER an issue unless they are health linked.

Any of you got tips on what i should do other then draw them to a wp/exit and then dps them till they rape my life down then town and come back and keep killin slowly until dead. This is really only an issue on higher mp when monsters have higher life so i cant pop a potion and kill them without goin town. Apparently it was clarified by someone in the monk thread that the damage reduction they take and stuff gets all spaced out and what not so ur LS% doesnt work as well. Im gonna try use 8.x% LS to see if it would let me just straight up face tank ww the shit out of the health link reflect packs next time but i doubt that is gonna help.

Heaven forbid high mp reflect health linked molten pack LOL.

yea get more lifesteal/res/armor and ull be fine.. you do 1/3 dmg to each when you hit.. so you have to be hitting all of them at once to get full life back

damn so u tellin me id have to hit 8k armor, 700 all res and 8.5% + LS to handle higher mp reflect health link lame lol. Well this was with war cry dropped so ill try it with standard ww with war cry.

what i always do against them is sprint away from them, kite them keeping sprint up and slowly regain life, its not the fastest way but it sure beats dying to them.

on another note wich i see no theory crafting about and so on is this: while you are wwing you actually do "swings" alternating between mainhand and offhand, this also decides wich weapon you will strike with after ww, so in theory actually trying to get a specific weapons attack speed to decide nado ticks gets a whole lot harder, since you will actually need to have char screen up to see wich weapon you are currently attacking with every single time you refresh sprint. Or does the nado ticks/second just take your current attack speed when a tornado is spawned, than trying to micro this is almost a task to mighty even for the most anal elitist jerks

This post was edited by Anomandaris on Nov 26 2012 03:02am

I found Overpower/Crushing Advance really helpful in dealing with reflect. as long as you crit enough you can perma cast it and always have the 30% dmg reduction.

Hi,

I am not sure which weapons in which combinations I should use. I have three weapons for the moment.
Number1 (Echoing Fury):


Number2 (Dagger):


Number3 (Axe):


My armor parts give me 52%Ias. So I guess I get with Echoing Fury and Axe the same speed as with Echoing Fury and Dagger. Am I right? Is there any difference when I swap Echoing Fury to offhand and Axe to mainhand?
Thx for help!

Best regards,
TCAvenger aka Sven

My build: http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Sven-1755/hero/6528048

This post was edited by TCAvenger on Nov 26 2012 08:36am