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Nov 4 2012 06:49pm
Quote (TjClacher @ Nov 4 2012 05:44am)
Hey D4rk50ul. Thank you for doing this. **Tracked**

Got any advice for me?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/xTj-1295/hero/14850762

I like the speed aspect I honestly have fun kiting around with vault and using my sentry.

I use entangled shot for the proc chance since I have WF. I get a ton more knockback procs then I would if I were to use hungering arrow. Any other advice would be greatly appreciative. I am not rich or anything I have ~16m to spend on my DH. If you don't think the 16m will make much of a difference then I can keep saving until I can afford something that will greatly help my DH out.


I would keep saving for a nice Inna's belt, gives huge dps but you need to retain some dex/vit.

Quote (kbman @ Nov 4 2012 06:26am)
This is just a basic question for you, but is full new natalya's set worth the +20 max disc for getting rid of 70AR and 6k dps?


That depends on your usage, you will get much less damage going 4 piece nats but the DISC is probably worth it. You can go for a double dex/vit rolled Dead man's and still have 50+ disc that way. The other route is to go pure damage in which case just check the top 20 on diablo progress for pure damage builds.

Quote (Solarves @ Nov 4 2012 08:17am)
How much LOH or Life Steal does one need in order to not get owned by Reflect Elites and/or Uber Siege.


5.7ish % life steal overcomes reflect, life on hit is more about the proc rate of the skills used than the amount and tbh it sucks on a DH.

Quote (PenguinKing @ Nov 4 2012 09:29am)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Scubasteve86-1322/hero/736308

Any recommendation items or skill wise with my setup?


Kind of lacking a usable nuke. The RoV rune you chose is kind of odd as its best used if you can sit and tank mobs to keep them in the radius of it. Might try using some Spike trap or Cluster arrow for a more direct nuke and some kind of skill to clear trash like multishot or elemental arrows. Bola Shot is also amazing.

Quote (Transporter725 @ Nov 4 2012 01:26pm)
What's a good aoe and single target build? I'm getting bored of ball lightning.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Flaapy-1774/hero/19835046


I haven't used the old "best" skills since they patched Bola. I use Bola shot as my main DPS with Volatile explosives rune so I can clear rooms with it, then use support skills. I try to keep 1 AOE, 1 Nuke, and 1 direct fire (to kill fast things like fallen maniacs) in my skill setup. Right now I have been using a Vengeance build using the Bat pet, Bola, Cluster Arrow: LFB, and RoV: Beastly Bombs to do mass damage while still having a good balance. I've even used a Hungering Arrow / Bola shot 1-2 combo with a nuke and it worked pretty well.
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Nov 4 2012 07:37pm
Any advice on where I should pool my resources next? Took me quite a while of AH trolling, but I was finally able break the 100 K mark (no SS),. I'm looking to push toward 150 K without using a manticore. I was thinking of saving up for a dex witching hour, but those are so expensive it will take a while. The other option would be using a dex andy's, but I don't think I'll get more than a 4-5k dps increase from where I am right now. Have about 10 mil to spend.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/rigoberto-1460/hero/1606655

Oh, and for those who don't know, bola shot + thunderball with fast attack speed (+2 aps) is just pure pawnage. It stuns everything!!!
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Nov 4 2012 07:39pm
Quote (FCOMAN @ Nov 4 2012 03:37pm)
Any advice on where I should pool my resources next? Took  me quite a while of AH trolling, but I was finally able break the 100 K mark (no SS),. I'm looking to push toward 150 K without using a manticore. I was thinking of saving up for a dex witching hour, but those are so expensive it will take a while. The other option would be using a dex andy's, but I don't think I'll get more than a 4-5k dps increase from where I am right now. Have about 10 mil to spend.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/rigoberto-1460/hero/1606655

Oh, and for those who don't know, bola shot + thunderball with fast attack speed (+2 aps) is just pure pawnage. It stuns everything!!!


I'd say rings, more crit/cd should give you the most cost effective dps increases. Andy's vs your Mempo is just a matter of crit and I doubt you get more than 2.5k dps increase per crit % while losing lots of survivability.
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Nov 4 2012 07:43pm
5.7ish % life steal overcomes reflect, life on hit is more about the proc rate of the skills used than the amount and tbh it sucks on a DH.

And so what items will give you this percent? I see 3% as the cap and it's only on weapons.
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Nov 4 2012 07:56pm
Quote (Solarves @ Nov 4 2012 03:43pm)
5.7ish % life steal overcomes reflect, life on hit is more about the proc rate of the skills used than the amount and tbh it sucks on a DH.

And so what items will give you this percent? I see 3% as the cap and it's only on weapons.


The only items you can use to hit that BP is 2x 1h rare Xbows. Not worth the DPS/Stat loss unless you find the most GFG ones ever. Just use the crutch that everyone uses, Shadow Power - Gloom.
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Nov 5 2012 12:51am
Upgraded my items a bit.

Anything I should specifically look for/change?

Items I'm trying to get:

Vile Ward, Inna's Pants, Upgrade my rings/ammy as well.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Duir-1374/hero/3551297
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Nov 5 2012 02:35am
What to prefer?
A rare amulet with:
crit damage > crit chance > dex > vita? > allres?

or some legendary? In that case, which one?
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Nov 5 2012 03:11am
Im currently using Nat set (not legacy) and at around 190k dps,

is it worth to lose some dps for Legacy Nat set?

Because at higher mp's i tend to run out of Disc and get killed due not having gloom up or shooting myself to death on reflect dmg mobs :D

This post was edited by V4mP on Nov 5 2012 03:18am
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Nov 5 2012 04:23am
Quote (ShocKioN @ Nov 4 2012 07:06pm)


Not a huge fan of steady aim personally, it is a very short range to disable it but when solo farming you OFTEN get mobs who you simply cannot stay away from. I'd rather take something that is on 100% of the time and contributes either defense (more dps time) or offense. Don't be afraid of using Sharpshooter its not a bad skill at all, highly geared DH's like to bash it because it becomes redundant after about 45% crit but it can really help boost overall dps.

Quote (Duir @ Nov 4 2012 08:51pm)
Upgraded my items a bit.

Anything I should specifically look for/change?

Items I'm trying to get:

Vile Ward, Inna's Pants, Upgrade my rings/ammy as well.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Duir-1374/hero/3551297


Sounds like a good plan I'd say grind away and get some that you will be happy with for awhile :D

Quote (jolassen @ Nov 4 2012 10:35pm)
What to prefer?
A rare amulet with:
crit damage > crit chance > dex > vita? > allres?

or some legendary? In that case, which one?


Rare amulet all the way, if I had to choose a perfect it would be crit damage > crit chance > dex > attack speed > res > vita. Mara's can roll pretty gfg though as a legendary but they aren't any cheaper than a rare when they do.


Quote (V4mP @ Nov 4 2012 11:11pm)
Im currently using Nat set (not legacy) and at around 190k dps,

is it worth to lose some dps for Legacy Nat set?

Because at higher mp's i tend to run out of Disc and get killed due not having gloom up or shooting myself to death on reflect dmg mobs :D


O.k. this is one of those never ending debates. I prefer taking the huge EHP/damage hit to run legacy, but that doesn't mean my choice is the right one. I have builds that require all skill slots and prep is never one of them, plus if you get 40 total disc with legacy nats you pretty much never run out (you can perma gloom with base disc which is what I use). It costs more to gear legacy not because of the actual nat's pieces, but how godly you need the rest of your gear to be to compensate for its lack of stats.

I watch streams and one guy runs new nats with the typical manticore style build but having max disc on EVERYTHING he can get it on. Pretty effective but then you get into which is truly better if thats what you need to do to compensate for lack of regen. You lose the possible double rolled dex/vit on dead man's because Max disc takes its place. You have max disc on your cloak when you could have had all res/armor/more dex/vit. You STILL need prep even with 70 max discipline as it just simply doesn't regen fast enough unless you farm slow.

My current build would be completely impossible without legacy, and I really like it.
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