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Sep 8 2012 12:20pm
more +% elemental damage the better ofc, it adds up on top of your total damage, you casee the change in character screen
damage to elites doesn't show up there, cause it is vs elite only
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Sep 8 2012 01:10pm
Quote (ae1337 @ 8 Sep 2012 20:20)
more +% elemental damage the better ofc, it adds up on top of your total damage, you casee the change in character screen
damage to elites doesn't show up there, cause it is vs elite only


well i meant my dmg is psn, does +arcane boost anyway? I heard it might do1
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Sep 8 2012 01:24pm
No, it boosts physical damage by that %
If you have weapon with arcane, it will boost only physical part (base * enhanced damage weapon mod).
It is not much though, imo more important to focus on getting 30% to elites, or useful skill bonus.
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Sep 8 2012 02:15pm
2.3 million life per second!


buffing my 11k dps to 29k dps



28967dps/2.39aps*11=133k damage per monster per 0.84seconds
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Sep 8 2012 04:12pm
you need to count 2 attacks, cause one is casting zombie dogs, and another is using sacrifice

bears are much better than this unfortunately, couple of reasons:

- much better aoe
- enough damage per single zombie bear vs trash
- enough burst damage + multihit vs elites
- 2x faster cast speed, allows to hit & run faster
- cheap, doesn't require expensive jewelery

Problem with sacrifice is, you deal very high 1100% damage per 2 casting cycles, to relatively small area. It is good vs elites, but vs trash it is wasteful. Taking down wide spread out pack of weak enemies, takes multiple casts, while one zombie bear casts clears it easily. Vs elites bears can all hit same target dealing 3x 238%, which is not far from sacrifice, and considering each cast = new zombie bears, while sacrifice takes two (spawn, and then sacrifice), it even outdamages sacrifice.
Putting theorycrafting on a side, bears just work much better during farming, it clears areas significantly faster.

Zombie dogs are quire fun for co-op games, just another gimmky build that works to some extent.
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Sep 8 2012 05:49pm
Quote (ae1337 @ Sep 8 2012 10:12pm)
you need to count 2 attacks, cause one is casting zombie dogs, and another is using sacrifice

bears are much better than this unfortunately, couple of reasons:

- much better aoe
- enough damage per single zombie bear vs trash
- enough burst damage + multihit vs elites
- 2x faster cast speed, allows to hit & run faster
- cheap, doesn't require expensive jewelery

Problem with sacrifice is, you deal very high 1100% damage per 2 casting cycles, to relatively small area. It is good vs elites, but vs trash it is wasteful. Taking down wide spread out pack of weak enemies, takes multiple casts, while one zombie bear casts clears it easily. Vs elites bears can all hit same target dealing 3x 238%, which is not far from sacrifice, and considering each cast = new zombie bears, while sacrifice takes two (spawn, and then sacrifice), it even outdamages sacrifice.
Putting theorycrafting on a side, bears just work much better during farming, it clears areas significantly faster.

Zombie dogs are quire fun for co-op games, just another gimmky build that works to some extent.


already take the 2cast needed to sacrefice dogs into my calculation of how to turn 11k dps into 133k per blast per 0.84seconds! look at my aps!

bears sucks!
fun to see that people who use bears not know how bears work! there is no multihit per cast from bears per target!
and how you plan on spamming bears at more then 1.4aps whitout getting out of mana? even if use all the bear sks legendary ingame!

fun for someone who snipet-bot all zombie dog gear for ages, and now talks its crap!
but when sniping he keeps bumping somone else ideo topic for it own kapitalist reasons!
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64334855&f=142&o=100
Quote (ae1337 @ Aug 28 2012 08:04am)
If you refer to me, I haven't sold any of zombie dog cooldown rings I got from ah. Still own 6s skull grasp just in case i find amulet and will be able to get rid of offhand, and for example try the build with 2h.
Also the idea is far from yours, there were numerous threads on other forums before you even made this thread.

But this is a neat idea indeed to sell some of this shit once it gets popular. Thanks for tip!

joke !
you took away 2days of d3 fun of me, but your to stupit to finsih the bild yourself!
stay low, and lie more about your kapitalisme!
needs 3x 7-8sec cooldown ring/amu, couse he needs 20%more damage, joker lol!
a reason for me to stop posing in that topic, couse your where destroying the market, at the cost of peoples fun in the game, for your own kapitalist reasons!
gtfo out plz, you not even know how to click your buttons!

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Sep 8 2012 05:58pm
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Quote (Tommyvv @ 8 Sep 2012 19:49)
already take the 2cast needed to sacrefice dogs into my calculation of how to turn 11k dps into 133k per blast per 0.84seconds! look at my aps!

bears sucks!
fun to see that people who use bears not know how bears work! there is no multihit per cast from bears per target!
and how you plan on spamming bears at more then 1.4aps whitout getting out of mana? even if use all the bear sks legendary ingame!

fun for someone who snipet-bot all zombie dog gear for ages, and now talks its crap!
but when sniping he keeps bumping somone else ideo topic for it own kapitalist reasons!
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64334855&f=142&o=100

joke !
you took away 2days of d3 fun of me, but your to stupit to finsih the bild yourself!
stay low, and lie more about your kapitalisme!
needs 3x 7-8sec cooldown ring/amu, couse he needs 20%more damage, joker lol!
a reason for me to stop posing in that topic, couse your where destroying the market, at the cost of peoples fun in the game, for your own kapitalist reasons!
gtfo out plz, you not even know how to click your buttons!


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Sep 8 2012 06:23pm
I just glad there is a few viable builds for the wd , and to each there own!
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Sep 8 2012 07:07pm
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its just that i hate kapitalisme!
and sp/pvda>vvd
so i needed to do that, its politics!
we need to share, or we are doomed all!


instead of foccus on extra solo mf greed speed, better foccus on fun/party/fun play speed

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Sep 8 2012 07:10pm
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Sep 9 2012 03:25am
Can anyone confirm Paranoia (Mass Confusion) working on Bosses? Not the confuse aspect, just the 12 seconds of 20% increased damage.
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