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Feb 14 2013 08:21am
Quote (jinshin85 @ Feb 14 2013 05:14am)
who said 5mil crits? probably with other runes maybe?

but i only use empowered one and i crit between 900k-1.4mil usually.

it was higher in the ptr because i didn't care much about ehp. lol

and it's 890%/890%/90%.

still farming mp7 likes it's mp1.

gotta stop pvping. gonna grind plvling. exp buff is just very huge on high mp.


This is what you and Jet were saying about 12 pages ago. Maybe just jet though. Anyways, that number is a lot more realistic, I can deal with that. lol
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Feb 14 2013 08:23am
Quote (jinshin85 @ Feb 14 2013 06:14am)
Nope. doesn't make sense. lol and I really dont know.

it hits 3 times in a row. initial hit/follow up hit/straightline.

that means it shows dmg numbers 3 times too right? just curious.


Yeah, that's how it works.

To me, it makes sense that it would be 445/445/96. That gives the 890% from tooltip and probably reconciles the descrepancy.

/e: also take into consideration, bonus avg dmg is added into wpn dmg for calculation, so you need to add all the jewelry into the min-max calculation for weapon dmg. Plus bonus to elites, ele%, etc etc.

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Feb 14 2013 08:29am
Quote (TK_Zerothehero @ Feb 14 2013 07:20am)
So can someone outline for me or point me to a link for this WOL build and gear? I'm currently loving TR build but with these new changes to exp on higher mp lvls I want to switch it up. I hate posting my btag/profile and saying "dur what should I change", though I may end up doing that after I research it and if I can't figure it out for myself.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KimSulki84-1308/hero/7645093

If you are having hard time to regearing it, just let me know (if you are on US server). I'll gear you up.

I've geared up 2 Bells R Us monks with good amount of budget last week. Turned out well.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Feb 14 2013 08:31am
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Feb 14 2013 08:32am
Quote (kylezo @ Feb 14 2013 07:23am)
Yeah, that's how it works.

To me, it makes sense that it would be 445/445/96.  That gives the 890% from tooltip and probably reconciles the descrepancy.

/e: also take into consideration, bonus avg dmg is added into wpn dmg for calculation, so you need to add all the jewelry into the min-max calculation for weapon dmg. Plus bonus to elites, ele%, etc etc.


Ah. I see. :)

I really don't care how I get the numbers though. lol

My goal is to shoot for 200k with soj with the same ehp that I have right now.
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Feb 14 2013 08:35am
Quote (jinshin85 @ Feb 14 2013 09:14am)
that means it shows dmg numbers 3 times too right? just curious.


yup

Quote (kylezo @ Feb 14 2013 09:23am)
Yeah, that's how it works.

To me, it makes sense that it would be 445/445/96.  That gives the 890% from tooltip and probably reconciles the descrepancy.

/e: also take into consideration, bonus avg dmg is added into wpn dmg for calculation, so you need to add all the jewelry into the min-max calculation for weapon dmg. Plus bonus to elites, ele%, etc etc.


Awesome, yeah forgot all that, the 800k averge goes up to 1mil - 1.1 mil average then, which makes much more sense.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Feb 14 2013 08:40am
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Feb 14 2013 08:43am
Oh yeah, I actually wanted to put a radi ruby on the skorn to see what gives me more bell dmg though.

Do you guys think? The paper dps looked pretty similar when I swapped the gem last night. Didn't have time to play though.

If it's worth it, maybe I'll get a marquise ruby. But not sure yet.
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Feb 14 2013 10:22am
in the case of bells, the sheet DPS is a good reference... whichever gem gives your higher sheet DPS will give you better bell dps

also, base damage is not so good on skorn because it already has high base damage... 100 base damage to 1400 dps is like 15%? 100% crit damage at 50% crit should be much more...
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in the case of bells, the sheet DPS is a good reference... whichever gem gives your higher sheet DPS will give you better bell dps

also, base damage is not so good on skorn because it already has high base damage... 100 base damage to 1400 dps is like 15%?  100% crit damage at 50% crit should be much more...


Got it!

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Budget?
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Feb 14 2013 11:38am
I'm currently running with this (sub cyclone strike for bells - I was dual wielding and switched weapons)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Veranor-1613/hero/1339118

This is not top-tier equipment, and the ammy was crafted. Had to spend a lot of time after a 7 month absence picking apart the AH to find lowball deals.

The most notable was the Skorn, which was on the AH for 5 mil. It had been up for about 2 secs when I pulled the trigger.

I've still got a LOT of work to do to improve this guy, but he is ripping apart mp7 with lots and lots of bells. Bells are everywhere lol.

Ultimately I want to dual wield, but I've noticed that even with scaled DPS similar to with the Skorn, the damage was considerably less. I venture that's due to main hand damage, which is why the Skorn provides me with 1.1 mil crits on wave of light. Also, am not using blinding flash because yes, it does provide a bonus, but its got a CD and I'm lazy to wait for it to pass.

Love to hear everyone's thoughts. I'm still working on this guy and will continue to do so until I reach PL 100.

EDIT:

This is the build I'm using right now. Subbed heal for flash at the last minute. Changed my mind lol.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aeYgSk!Ubd!YbcYcc

This post was edited by Veranor2 on Feb 14 2013 11:54am
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