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Feb 26 2013 01:29am
Quote (WereWolf12345 @ Feb 26 2013 03:17am)
Not sure where you got this from but I've never seen a llder use potions. The lvl 60 duels you're referring to are brawls. Brawls are mindless public games kind of like full reju pub stomping hdins in d2 clearing blood moor with tmc and chicken tp using gears bought on whichever horny money grubbing site he googled while he was bored...

Why would we allow pots in like ever? We're trying to make duels FASTER, not longer... That's why we banned life regen passives.


BUT SIR WULF, your witch doctor is FAR to strong to beat without my sprint / leap / charge / spam pots strat. ILL BE FINISHED!
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Feb 26 2013 01:33am
Quote (Ir0nside @ Feb 26 2013 07:29am)
BUT SIR WULF, your witch doctor is FAR to strong to beat without my sprint / leap / charge / spam pots strat. ILL BE FINISHED!


That's CAPTAIN Wulf for you!

On a more related note, this is what I think we all came up with so far:

Level 30 LLD Rules:
- The usual (No potions, say go before attacking someone, level 30, no cheats)
- No Hellfire rings, Hamburgers or Spectrum allowed.
- You may only use up to Flawless Square gems in your socketed gears.
- No life % regeneration passives allowed (Broodling for DH, Inspiring Presence for Barbs and Blood Magic for WD's)
- Monks are not allowed to use Breath of Heaven.
- Witch Doctors may only use Hex OR Fear at any given time, they may not use both.


Some people have mentioned a certain "sentry" ruling for demon hunters restraining the total quantity out at any time/only 1 on screen? I'm not sure why this ruling was ever put in place since neither barbs or monks have trouble against dh's and every other classes can reach dh's without getting close to them but I guess it's up for discussion? What was the reasoning behind this?

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Feb 26 2013 01:38am
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Quote (WereWolf12345 @ Feb 26 2013 03:33am)
That's CAPTAIN Wulf for you!

On a more related note, this is what I think we all came up with so far:

Level 30 LLD Rules:
- The usual (No potions, say go before attacking someone, level 30, no cheats)
- No Hellfire rings, Hamburgers or Spectrum allowed.
- You may only use up to Flawless Square gems in your socketed gears.
- No life % regeneration passives allowed (Broodling for DH, Inspiring Presence for Barbs and Blood Magic for WD's)
- Monks are not allowed to use Breath of Heaven.
- Witch Doctors may only use Hex or Fear, not both at the same time.


Some people have mentioned a certain "sentry" ruling for demon hunters restraining the total quantity out at any time/only 1 on screen? I'm not sure why this ruling was ever put in place since neither barbs or monks have trouble against dh's but I guess it's up for discussion? What was the reasoning behind this?


After careful review and extensive testing, i believe DHs should be able to spam da shit outa turrets all they want.

Im a barb.

Thats my vote.
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Feb 26 2013 01:51am
Quote (WereWolf12345 @ Feb 26 2013 02:33am)
That's CAPTAIN Wulf for you!

On a more related note, this is what I think we all came up with so far:

Level 30 LLD Rules:
- The usual (No potions, say go before attacking someone, level 30, no cheats)
- No Hellfire rings, Hamburgers or Spectrum allowed.
- You may only use up to Flawless Square gems in your socketed gears.
- No life % regeneration passives allowed (Broodling for DH, Inspiring Presence for Barbs and Blood Magic for WD's)
- Monks are not allowed to use Breath of Heaven.
- Witch Doctors may only use Hex OR Fear at any given time, they may not use both.


Some people have mentioned a certain "sentry" ruling for demon hunters restraining the total quantity out at any time/only 1 on screen? I'm not sure why this ruling was ever put in place since neither barbs or monks have trouble against dh's and every other classes can reach dh's without getting close to them but I guess it's up for discussion? What was the reasoning behind this?


For level 10's add chipped only, anything past that makes it lul duels.
Did a fair amount of testing but i will do more.

So you may or may not want to add it directly to the list, but it did work out for the best duels.

Also a numerical cap on replenish will need to be in place because over 150 rep in gear is possible (thus impossible duel)

I think 65 (100 is too much, which is why we banned the passives) is a very fair number and relatively hard to shoot for when getting good gear so allows for end game builds, but not boring duels.

Open to criticism.

This post was edited by ]GS[ Controller on Feb 26 2013 01:53am
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Feb 26 2013 01:58am
Quote (]GS[ Controller @ Feb 26 2013 03:51am)
For level 10's add chipped only, anything past that makes it lul duels.
Did a fair amount of testing but i will do more.

So you may or may not want to add it directly to the list, but it did work out for the best duels.

Also a numerical cap on replenish will need to be in place because over 150 rep in gear is possible (thus impossible duel)

I think 65 (100 is too much, which is why we banned the passives) is a very fair number and relatively hard to shoot for when getting good gear so allows for end game builds, but not boring duels.

Open to criticism.


65 seems like a great number, the only thing i hate about limiting regen is when sum1 finds an awesome peice of gear and has to take off another awesome peice of gear because there over the regen cap, since great gear is so hard to find, but like u said, 150 regen is possible and it makes for stupid duels... so 65 seems like a good place to start at least.
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Feb 26 2013 02:05am
Quote (Ir0nside @ Feb 25 2013 11:22pm)
Kite. Frost armor. Hydra.

Also Most barbs dont have 2k dps. I havent found 1 with 2k besides me yet.


Yours doesn't have 2k dps though, you have like 1400

And im sure I got atleast 2k with wotb, too ;)

E/

Why ban monks heal skill? Doesn't feel quite necessary imo

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Feb 26 2013 02:12am
Quote (]GS[ Controller @ Feb 26 2013 07:51am)
For level 10's add chipped only, anything past that makes it lul duels.
Did a fair amount of testing but i will do more.

So you may or may not want to add it directly to the list, but it did work out for the best duels.

Also a numerical cap on replenish will need to be in place because over 150 rep in gear is possible (thus impossible duel)

I think 65 (100 is too much, which is why we banned the passives) is a very fair number and relatively hard to shoot for when getting good gear so allows for end game builds, but not boring duels.

Open to criticism.


Most of those rules only apply to lvl 30s so id say wed need to make a brand new bracket for lvl 10, 20s and whatnot. since uve been dueling at that lvl i think you should be doing it and keep all of the rules in your profile.

as for rep i think a rounder numbers easier. how about 50? and again thats a cap to allow people some flexibility when they find a piece of gear they really want. people shouldnt deliberately be aiming for that amount.

Quote (Orvar @ Feb 26 2013 08:05am)
Yours doesn't have 2k dps though, you have like 1400

And im sure I got atleast 2k with wotb, too ;)

E/

Why ban monks heal skill? Doesn't feel quite necessary imo


the logic behind it was that it dramatically increases the time of a duel monk vs caster. and its possible for people to build spirit regen and life on spirit spent and l8z with it. its an unconditional heal. we're trying to stay away from these. i guess thats how i understood it. anything to add cont?

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Feb 26 2013 02:59am
Quote (Orvar @ Feb 26 2013 04:05am)
Yours doesn't have 2k dps though, you have like 1400

And im sure I got atleast 2k with wotb, too ;)

E/

Why ban monks heal skill? Doesn't feel quite necessary imo


2262* actually without battle rage. People have things called gear swaps, sometimes they wanna go defensive.

2686.9 with battle rage up there bud ;)

With wotb and full dps gear, and a proc from revenge, i hit over 4k dps.

U on US ill show u ;)
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Feb 26 2013 03:07am
Quote (WereWolf12345 @ Feb 26 2013 03:12am)
Most of those rules only apply to lvl 30s so id say wed need to make a brand new bracket for lvl 10, 20s and whatnot. since uve been dueling at that lvl i think you should be doing it and keep all of the rules in your profile.

as for rep i think a rounder numbers easier. how about 50? and again thats a cap to allow people some flexibility when they find a piece of gear they really want. people shouldnt deliberately be aiming for that amount.



the logic behind it was that it dramatically increases the time of a duel monk vs caster. and its possible for people to build spirit regen and life on spirit spent and l8z with it. its an unconditional heal. we're trying to stay away from these. i guess thats how i understood it. anything to add cont?


Yea 50 works, since half of 100 and would probably be best since that is like half gear with a small amount of regen.

everything else seems solid to me.

This post was edited by ]GS[ Controller on Feb 26 2013 03:08am
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Feb 26 2013 05:09am
Hi guys, wanna get in on this, but still deciding what class to play.
How do barbs do at Lvl 30? They already have a lot of "hunting down" skills like sprint, Charge, Leap, stomp with range - but do they have a chance against a WD with hex?
You might not have the fury for WOTB (or does superstition help here?), nor for sprint to outrun the hex-minion, right?
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