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Sep 6 2012 08:08pm
Quote (young2093 @ Sep 6 2012 07:14pm)
Fierce Loyalty --> Spirtual Attunement
Spirit Walk Healing Journey --> Spirit Walk Honored Guest

This will increase your Mana pool and Mana regeneration by a LOT, increasing your effective DPS by increasing the amount of damage you can apply before running into Mana issues.

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Edit: On another note, BBV is really bad for 90% of situations.


Fierce loyalty lets my pets never die, also for bbv im just unsure of what i should put in that spot tbh
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Fierce loyalty lets my pets never die, also for bbv im just unsure of what i should put in that spot tbh


With your levels of res/armor and your build your pets would be fine without fierce loyalty. You only need them to not die for 45-60 seconds. If I was going to replace BBV I would use restless giant, horrify, or mass confuse.
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Sep 7 2012 02:23am
Hello all.
I love my wd the most and thought id drop by with a few questions

what would you suggest i upgrade here for more dps without sacrificing much res?

im thinking ofc zunni trails and maybe a witch belt?

what do you all suggest?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Controller-1114/hero/13318011
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Sep 7 2012 04:28am
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Movement speed is a good point to begin with. I've got only 52k DPS unbuffed, but champs/rares in act 3 die in a few seconds anyways. So it might be more efficient to just decrease the time spent to find another pack of mobs. I don't want to miss my 24% MS ever again.
Another slot is you shoulders - i can only speak for EU auction house, but better ones shouldn't be expensive/hard to find.
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Quote (]GS[ Controller @ Sep 7 2012 08:23am)
Hello all.
I love my wd the most and thought id drop by with a few questions

what would you suggest i upgrade here for more dps without sacrificing much res?

im thinking ofc zunni trails and maybe a witch belt?

what do you all suggest?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Controller-1114/hero/13318011


Your gear looks good, missing only movement speed like the previous poster pointed out.
Your build on the other hand isn't very good, 2 passive slots in Pierce The Veil + Spiritual Attunement for just +20%damage and still more mana consumption isn't worth it. Without Spirit Vessel you probably have to rely on Splinter a lot which is very slow with Skorn.

I'd suggest a build like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLdDo6jLnyE&feature=channel&list=UL

- 24% movement speed
- Grave Injustice for life/mana gain and CD resetting
- Damage rune on Soul Harvest. It's instant kill if you crit on trash. No point in just using it as a 60s buff (other than help vs. bosses, but you should manage to kill them without it).
- Spirit Vessel for more safety and lower CDs
- pickup radius for max effect from Grave Injustice and Gruesome Feast
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Sep 7 2012 05:10am
I don't think that spirit vessel is that essential.
I only die to high burst damage - after leaving the spirit-vessel-spirit-form (wonderful word :>) with low life those would kill me anyways.
I use jungle fortitude so myself AND my pets can take a lot (in fact 20% :P) more damage before dying.

My build:
[URL]http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#WfUgYT!acY!bcZcca[/URL]

My gear:
[URL]http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Bob-2349/hero/297427[/URL]

I might switch blood ritual to grave injustice though. I'm rarely really out of mana if i try to not to spam bears on single mobs.

This post was edited by Probabyl_Bob on Sep 7 2012 05:11am
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Quote (getmorecoins @ Sep 7 2012 04:34am)
With your levels of res/armor and your build your pets would be fine without fierce loyalty. You only need them to not die for 45-60 seconds. If I was going to replace BBV I would use restless giant, horrify, or mass confuse.


tri fecta gloves with add dps , the new sage set gloves/boots is nice , still askin your self "can i loose the res , to up the dps"? with dps nuker builds , your really only lookin at small dps up grades for big money, as for the pets thing , your life is low and ull still be the targ , might help to drop the leeching beastts , and add more dps vs elites by addin voodoo totem/dmg rune , just that alone will add almost 20 k dps for 12 sec , enought to take ne mob down,_problem solved , with out changin a thing


* sorry wrong quote , ^^ at controller

This post was edited by jaydo111 on Sep 7 2012 07:36am
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Sep 7 2012 03:00pm
We should get an all WD farm team together :P

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Quote (Probabyl_Bob @ Sep 7 2012 03:10am)
I don't think that spirit vessel is that essential.
I only die to high burst damage - after leaving the spirit-vessel-spirit-form (wonderful word :>) with low life those would kill me anyways.
I use jungle fortitude so myself AND my pets can take a lot (in fact 20% :P) more damage before dying.

My build:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#WfUgYT!acY!bcZcca

My gear:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Bob-2349/hero/297427

I might switch blood ritual to grave injustice though. I'm rarely really out of mana if i try to not to spam bears on single mobs.


Really nice gear

This post was edited by FF-Paradox on Sep 7 2012 03:05pm
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Quote (Regrets @ Sep 7 2012 12:26am)

If you are wondering what stats a WD would need for that, here you go: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Savage-1411/hero/12019376

Its all completely unbuffed! I tank for pub games all the time....

Ten wpis zostaƂ edytowany przez Regrets dnia Sep 7 2012 12:27am


You can do it with far less defensive stats and no defensive passives. That wd build that relies "on kill" healing, can melt elites quick enough. It grabs health globes instantly, so that provides healing, as long as you can deal damage quickly.
Only problem with this build is, if you want it to work in 4 player game, it requires very high damage (120k unbuffed~). I'm at 65k unbuffed, and it is enough to rush through 2 player game a3 inferno, melting elites in few seconds, and not having problems problems with mana. Adding one more player makes it annoying, cost of bears vs rate of health globes that spawn starts to be problematic, better gear required.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/aerial-2212/hero/10536583

This post was edited by ae1337 on Sep 7 2012 03:22pm
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Quote (ae1337 @ Sep 7 2012 09:21pm)

Only problem with this build is, if you want it to work in 4 player game, it requires very high damage (120k unbuffed~). I'm at 65k unbuffed, and it is enough to rush through 2 player game a3 inferno, melting elites in few seconds, and not having problems problems with mana. Adding one more player makes it annoying, cost of bears vs rate of health globes that spawn starts to be problematic, better gear required.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/aerial-2212/hero/10536583


Try good old BBV with Rain Dance and don't use it for elites exclusively. For me, mana problems usually occur in open areas where the mobs are more widely spread - BBV lets you kill those mobs + get mana back to full.
You could also try the mana rune on Spirit Walk. Or get a low cost primary skill for Acid Rain.
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