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Jan 7 2011 01:06am
Quote (B_urning @ Jan 7 2011 03:03pm)
All your arguments are void. You have no facts supporting anything you said, meaning your opinion is worthless.

Not only are they not supported by facts, but all your assumptions are incorrect. Blizzard is the leading computer gaming company in the world. Try to wrap your meager mind around that. Point being, money is not even a factor. Not even based on their own money, they have an unbelievable number of people that would spend a fortune just to get one ad on their game.

Ask for the bots, hacks, etc... You're an idiot. You do realize your argument is saying Blizzard is too poor to solve these problems, without p2p in effect. I do not have a solid reason why some bots and hacks leak through and others don't. My guess would be that they just don't have the foresight to make a leak proof game. Software will always have holes that hackers can get through.

Your entire argument is based on not enough money, facts being they have more money than you can fathom.

For the hell of it, let's get a simple idea of Blizzards wealth.

Roughly 10,000,000 players on WoW let's say each of them spends only $100

$1,000,000,000 would be their earnings.

As you can imagine, some players have spent over $1,000 on WoW.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

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One trillion dollars is minuscule compared to Blizzard's total wealth. It's obviously larger than your example by a couple orders of magnitude. Aside from the vast amount of income that Blizzard has to its name, your so-called factual argument that Blizzard is the leading computer gaming company in the world, is no more than an opinion. With that said, you shouldn't pretend that your argument is any less subjective than, say, the thread's OP.

Hacks, bots, exploits, and anything else you can come up with can and will happen in Diablo 3. We are talking about the next game in a series that is infamous for the amount of exploits the hacking community has invented against it. To claim that this will not happen is a naive assumption. Your opinion of Blizzard's grandeur and immunity to this sort of thing is ignorant and uneducated. While you are correct in saying that virtually all software is exploitable, this doesn't strengthen your argument in any way.

As anyone else would say, just shut the fuck up.

This post was edited by FFVI on Jan 7 2011 01:13am
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Jan 7 2011 06:35am
D3 wont be like D2 in the term of bots and hacks. They will be there you can tell by looking at Sc2 with drop hacks and all that good shit. Does not matter if the game is P2P or not those hacks will still be there.
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Jan 7 2011 07:02am
p2p is stupid, deal with it
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Jan 7 2011 07:10am
agree, better maintained and less stupid kids
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Jan 7 2011 10:33am
sad thing is, everyone here complaining about pay to play is still gonna pay to play D3.
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Jan 7 2011 11:37am
Quote (alexismad77 @ Jan 7 2011 10:33am)
sad thing is, everyone here complaining about pay to play is still gonna pay to play D3.


Can I get a "amen"
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Jan 7 2011 01:59pm
Quote (Composure @ 9 Sep 2010 22:11)
I actually agree 100%. Any game that is pay to play is much more successful than a game that has a one time fee.


BWHAAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH


A 100% false claim. Based on what evidence, might I add? Also, look at games like the COD franchise whereby its a once pay to play.. or games like Diablo 2?? xDDD
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Jan 7 2011 03:19pm
Quote (FFVI @ 7 Jan 2011 00:06)
One trillion dollars is minuscule compared to Blizzard's total wealth.  It's obviously larger than your example by a couple orders of magnitude.  Aside from the vast amount of income that Blizzard has to its name, your so-called factual argument that Blizzard is the leading computer gaming company in the world, is no more than an opinion.  With that said, you shouldn't pretend that your argument is any less subjective than, say, the thread's OP.

Hacks, bots, exploits, and anything else you can come up with can and will happen in Diablo 3.  We are talking about the next game in a series that is infamous for the amount of exploits the hacking community has invented against it.  To claim that this will not happen is a naive assumption.  Your opinion of Blizzard's grandeur and immunity to this sort of thing is ignorant and uneducated.  While you are correct in saying that virtually all software is exploitable, this doesn't strengthen your argument in any way.

As anyone else would say, just shut the fuck up.


The way I understood this, you just defended the person you were trying to argue against.
In my opinion, the reason that there are so many exploits in D2 is that it's a dying game, and D3 has been on the way for quite some time now.
Why fix a dying game?

And to your argument on Blizzard's immunity to exploits, who are you to say they can't deal with them?

Quote (Mephizto @ 7 Jan 2011 12:59)
BWHAAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH

A 100% false claim. Based on what evidence, might I add? Also, look at games like the COD franchise whereby its a once pay to play.. or games like Diablo 2?? xDDD


And Starcraft, and L4D, and TF2, and Guild Wars, and Battlefield, and Torchlight, and Oblivion/Morrowind, etc.

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Jan 7 2011 03:32pm
Quote (Composure @ Sep 9 2010 06:11pm)
I actually agree 100%. Any game that is pay to play is much more successful than a game that has a one time fee.


um.. i strongly disagree.

compare diablo 2 vs final fantasy xiv or hellgate london. D2 shits on both of them

BLIZZARD knows how to make a game good even if its not pay to play. why the fuck would i waste both my TIME AND MONEY to play a god damn game? diablo 3 should not be pay to play because frankly thats just dumb as fuck

if it werent for how hacked diablo 2 is, i'd still be playing that game, so for those who think you should pay monthly youre straight up inexperienced and retarded. stupid new young 2009-2010 generation of d2jspers
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Jan 7 2011 04:00pm
Quote (PraizeAllah @ 7 Jan 2011 14:32)
um.. i strongly disagree.

compare diablo 2 vs final fantasy xiv or hellgate london.  D2 shits on both of them

BLIZZARD knows how to make a game good even if its not pay to play. why the fuck would i waste both my TIME AND MONEY to play a god damn game?  diablo 3 should not be pay to play because frankly thats just dumb as fuck

if it werent for how hacked diablo 2 is, i'd still be playing that game, so for those who think you should pay monthly youre straight up inexperienced and retarded. stupid new young 2009-2010 generation of d2jspers


I agreed with you until this.
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