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Sep 5 2012 09:22pm
Quote (ScT @ Sep 6 2012 01:10am)
so zunimasa i will go to take helm + armor + boots + ring on zunimasa or only  2 parts? too i have a good tal armor and i can use this too


I like the 4piece and I do think that the effect is noticeable, but I Acid Rain is my only mana sink.

If you have a good Tal's why not sell it and buy a Zunimassa for that money? ;)
It should cost more than the Zunimassa's!
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Sep 5 2012 10:02pm
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Hmm, I just bought a pair of gloves with 170 int / 7 crit chance and and 28 crit dmg to test with ( no armor / res / life as it was just a test ) and it was a 1000dps gain which means, I'll probably end up trying to save for a trifecta :( guh

yeah, I'll look at weapons too .. Hopefully I can find something for cheap.

.. and amulets are ridiculously priced for crap I wouldn't even consider using lol


Ugh, so my brother decided that he would play my wd and buy a new mojo with my 10m..

He upgraded from this

New one is currently being worn.. Not worth 10m imo..

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PotatoSalad-1794/hero/238396
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Sep 5 2012 10:11pm
Quote (FF-Paradox @ Sep 5 2012 11:02pm)
Ugh, so my brother decided that he would play my wd and buy a new mojo with my 10m..

He upgraded from this http://i48.tinypic.com/fc1em0.png

New one is currently being worn.. Not worth 10m imo..

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PotatoSalad-1794/hero/238396


It's definitely an upgrade but I wouldn't have paid 10m for it...maybe 5-6 but def not 10.

Either way you got a pretty nice build going :)
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Sep 6 2012 12:35am
My WD has got pretty good gear all around, but I'm not sure what his next upgrade ought to be. Here is my profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/getmorecoins-1224/hero/4307855

I will probably spend 30-50m on the next slot upgrade. Which one should it be? I'm thinking the weapon or mojo but I'm not sure where I'll get the most improvement in DPS. The new Uhkapian Serpent and Thing of the Deep mojos look pretty awesome, but I've also been thinking about going 2h with a big caster Skorn. Any thoughts?

edit: when I solo I run bears with a few pets to tank, and in groups I usually do 2 second dogs with sacrifice spam using a homunculus and a good visage of giyua.

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Sep 6 2012 01:01am
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My WD has got pretty good gear all around, but I'm not sure what his next upgrade ought to be. Here is my profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/getmorecoins-1224/hero/4307855

I will probably spend 30-50m on the next slot upgrade. Which one should it be? I'm thinking the weapon or mojo but I'm not sure where I'll get the most improvement in DPS. The new Uhkapian Serpent and Thing of the Deep mojos look pretty awesome, but I've also been thinking about going 2h with a big caster Skorn. Any thoughts?

edit: when I solo I run bears with a few pets to tank, and in groups I usually do 2 second dogs with sacrifice spam using a homunculus and a good visage of giyua.


You can get better legs from the AH for 50k or am I missing something?
Other than that, try to replace OH.
Also have a look at gloves again. The price of gloves has absolutely TANKED over the past couple of weeks, you should be able to find better ones for not too much.

What do you think about the SoJ? I have one with Dart dmg but I cannot really compare the effects because my dmg fluctuates so much so decided to not use it for now.
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Sep 6 2012 01:11am
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You can get better legs from the AH for 50k or am I missing something?

Also have a look at gloves again. The price of gloves has absolutely TANKED over the past couple of weeks, you should be able to find better ones for not too much.

What do you think about the SoJ? I have one with Dart dmg but I cannot really compare the effects because my dmg fluctuates so much so decided to not use it for now.


I'll have another look at gloves and pants, but pickup is a must so I definitely have less choice. I think both were about 200-500k.

I like the SoJ. It doesn't add a lot to on sheet DPS, but 21% to elites feels like a lot (and it's a low roll for SoJ). Trash already melts so unless I have a ring that bumps my damage by more than 12k I think I get more out of the SoJ than anything else. I mostly bought it for the high dogs reduction though.
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Sep 6 2012 01:19am
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I'll have another look at gloves and pants, but pickup is a must so I definitely have less choice. I think both were about 200-500k.

I like the SoJ. It doesn't add a lot to on sheet DPS, but 21% to elites feels like a lot (and it's a low roll for SoJ). Trash already melts so unless I have a ring that bumps my damage by more than 12k I think I get more out of the SoJ than anything else. I mostly bought it for the high dogs reduction though.


I see!

I might try the ring again once I upgrade my gear a bit (start losing MF% due to Paragon).
I couldn't really see a difference with the SoJ because my DPS fluctuates so much anyway.
I have 76k base dps but ~145k with Soul Harvest and Gruesome Feast.
I don't really want to cut MF% just like that, I'm farming with ~315 with merc and 5 stacks and found two legendaries this morning.
Diablo is a loot game after all and it makes it all the more rewarding.

Here's my WD btw:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mermaid-1352/hero/446650
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Sep 6 2012 01:29am
Quote (FraterPerdurabo @ Sep 6 2012 05:19pm)
I couldn't really see a difference with the SoJ because my DPS fluctuates so much anyway.

Here's my WD btw:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mermaid-1352/hero/446650


I just had a look at pants and gloves, and DPS upgrades that include pickup radius are minimal until at least the 10m range. I think I will focus on the weapon and mojo. If I get a good thing of the deep then I can drop pickup on other gear and make it easier to find upgrades.

Nice gear. I like the main hand. I envy your dps with that level of MF. If I ran pierce I would be in the same ballpark (I get about 130k with gruesome feast, soul harvest, and provoke the pack), but my base gear has no MF. I just swap on elite kills.

edit: I would definitely use the SOJ instead of your left ring. Yours probably has +8 or something darts and added elemental damage and at least 20 vs elites. I can almost guarantee that +35% on primary and +27% on everything will do more for you than your int/vit/AR/crit ring. With your DPS/LS/build you shouldn't need more survivability.

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Sep 6 2012 01:55am
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I just had a look at pants and gloves, and DPS upgrades that include pickup radius are minimal until at least the 10m range. I think I will focus on the weapon and mojo. If I get a good thing of the deep then I can drop pickup on other gear and make it easier to find upgrades.

Nice gear. I like the main hand. I envy your dps with that level of MF. If I ran pierce I would be in the same ballpark (I get about 130k with gruesome feast, soul harvest, and provoke the pack), but my base gear has no MF. I just swap on elite kills.

edit: I would definitely use the SOJ instead of your left ring. Yours probably has +8 or something darts and added elemental damage and at least 20 vs elites. I can almost guarantee that +35% on primary and +27% on everything will do more for you than your int/vit/AR/crit ring. With your DPS/LS/build you shouldn't need more survivability.


Thanks and thanks for the tips.
I was reluctant about using the SoJ mainly because I dropped under 30k hp.
But I self-found that Zunimassa's chest this morning and it had way more VIT than my previous one so I got a nice 6k HP boost.
Will do a few runs with SoJ and see how it goes!

I'm thinking about changing my build though... Darts are just so shit in comparison to Zombie Bears and I really, really hate bears.
I'm kind of hoping that they'll add some kind of AoE component to them at some point because right now they're just a bit rubbish.
If you're remotely interested in what I've got to say about WDs then maybe have a look here:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5208115269?page=1#2
It's a bit of a long rant but feel free to skip to the very last post.

I really want to buy Manajuma's offhand but I guess I should wait a little bit more and see if they introduce any changes to Darts.
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Sep 6 2012 02:20am
Yes, bears is shockingly better than anything else. The other runes of charger are a joke. I was surprised that none of them got love in 1.04.

If you can kill fast, you should give grave injustice a try. You may not have the pickup for it, but it's a fun way to manage cooldowns. Horrify, jaunt, soul harvest, and grasp of the dead all get even better. When I run grasp in keeps I can often have 3 grasps out at once, sometimes 4.

Also, while it requires very specialized gear, <10 second dogs with sacrifice spam is loads of fun too. Pets WD is also a much more group friendly build than builds that rely on GF and GI.
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