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Jan 22 2013 03:47am
Quote (PuppetYuber @ Jan 21 2013 10:49pm)
I haven't no, but invisuk monk was doing it on his stream earlier today. it works, but require top end gears

he pretty much just out tanked rend barb even when the barb had ignore pain. There are other things the barb could have done, but life steal is definitely effective when you have really good gears.

I am gonna go for something else (will reveal once i actually acquire the gears, dont want 50 monks sniping the same stuff LOL)


Are you certain that was from LS, not EHP stack and lps regen?

LS is REALLY bad man. with ignore pain, on a good barb, you're doing little dmg already as it is. getting 3% of that back isn't going to heal you measurably...esp with dots and incoming dmg.
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Jan 22 2013 03:48am
Quote (jinshin85 @ Jan 21 2013 11:12pm)
The reason why Lifesteal or LOH aren't much of a factor against Rend barbs is that the smart barb players do not let us free hit them for a long time.

When I fight steller barb type of guys, me and the barb are both looking for the right timing to engage and evade. Most of our dmg comes from blind/sss/palm. Most of their dmg comes from stun/rend.

No barbs will let us tclap for good period of time unless they are dummies. lol

and this is why i'm literally preaching to you guys to stack life regen instead of loh/lifesteal.

but yeah, dueling barbs is very very fun as most of the time, the fight goes on for quite awhile.

can't wait to get my hands on my new pvp stuff that i've bought.


Me too :D I've been scoping out some good regen gear myself. How much dps does your pvp set have, and lps?
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Jan 22 2013 06:47am
so... i bought 3 high end soj.

1)
6%psn dmg
2.10 spirit regen
29% elite
7% Wave of Light

2)
6%lightning dmg
2.25 spirit regen
28% elite
5% Wave of Light

3)
6%cold dmg
2.20 spirit regen
29% elite
Reduces resource cost of Cyclone strike by 5 spirit


How much you think they are actually worth?
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Jan 22 2013 08:23am
I've found a SoJ. Had 30% elite, 6% lite dmg, some hatred bonus, and some bonus to evasive fire. Sold for 12m within 10 mins, I'm 100% sure I could've got more cause it was nice DH ring. Didn't look it up well enough but eh, 12m can't complain.

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Jan 22 2013 08:31am
Quote (PuppetYuber @ Jan 22 2013 02:31am)
pretty sure a well geared barb could just tank you out, with high enough ehp + ignore pain they can just frenzy / stun / rend you to death.

bell and sss doesnt even burst a barb with 150k+ hp

that said, invis monk was fighting one that ran around as well, but he just dashing strike + blind and force the barb to fight.

http://www.twitch.tv/invisuk/b/359171758

starts at 3 hours 35 minutes, that said, the barb isnt very good though.


a bit imo is attack speed and how the barb is set up as far as forcing the barb into a fight, no sprint, but i dont know if this is normal. as far as staying alive, 800 loh on WKL is useful, and it looks like he has some regen. alot of it though id say is near death experience.

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Jan 22 2013 08:35am
Quote (PuppetYuber @ Jan 22 2013 12:31am)
pretty sure a well geared barb could just tank you out, with high enough ehp + ignore pain they can just frenzy / stun / rend you to death.


Maybe when they are in wotb mode yeah.

But whenever barbs go wotb, I palm and run around til wotb goes off. lol If you are running some funny route when running, it's not that easy for them to come and get it. Juking's fun. lol

And when they use ignore pain.. just run for couple second.

The biggest problem with people in pvp is that they are just trying to facetank everything.

Just gotta be patient and blind/palm/sss repeatedly whenever it's possible to land.

And I always use STI/OWE/Pacifism against fat barbs. This gives you more than enough ehp to make up for the loss of NDE.

The chances are even with NDE, if you get crit Rended, you will die anyway. lol

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Jan 22 2013 09:09am
Quote (jinshin85 @ Jan 22 2013 09:35am)

The biggest problem with people in pvp is that they are just trying to facetank everything.


thats not the problem, thats the chalange.
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Jan 22 2013 09:31am
Quote (Ylem122 @ Jan 22 2013 08:09am)
thats not the problem, thats the chalange.


facetanking is challenge?
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Jan 22 2013 09:48am
WD with spiders is annoying. They ain't gotta be close to you at all to hit ya.
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Jan 22 2013 10:19am
Quote (Bic @ Jan 22 2013 08:48am)
WD with spiders is annoying. They ain't gotta be close to you at all to hit ya.


chase them with dashing strike

or use the lashing kick
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