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Feb 21 2013 09:29am
Quote (Subzer0isGG @ Feb 21 2013 07:31am)
fucking anything

like.

which build for pvp you prefer and think is better?

tanky dh

dps dh

with the four basic skills ss or vault / prep / impale / hungering....what do you use for the other 2 slots

or diff setup completley? tanky dh, go with legs or prefer rare belt/pants etc.

zomg so much to discuss

i think start off by showin us yours. and il show you mine.


http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jackherrer-2632/hero/128567

my layout for public pvp games (FFA)

non legacy cant really afford vault and smokescreen unless you take a mass discipline build... 'evassive fire - surge' is a great way to get a vault and trigger tactical advantage, it also hits the target instantly unlike other hatred generators

sentry - guardian turret is a great skill to reduce the dmg of - rend - haunt - storm armor (life regen is great but dont really help reduce the dmg it just helps get ur life back after the attack)

Impale - chemical burn - best dps skill we have in pvp!

marked for death - soo useful against these good barbs with mass hp! change for others vs chars with low hp

Prep - battle scars - this is a must like having an extra potion

smoke screen - lingering fog - must for PVP removes all CC and makes us invincible and invisible and triggers tactical advantage!

Passives -

tactical advantage - we are dh we should be hitting and running and this passive makes it possible!

Sharpshooter - this gives us a 100% crit in a matter of seconds using this with impale- chemical burns is LETHAL!

Archery - some more dps is never a bad thing, some may choose steady aim but i find archery more useful as the dmg is permanent and it doesnt matter if u are 20 feet away for right next to them.




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Feb 21 2013 10:00am
Quote (R0SS @ 21 Feb 2013 16:02)
about 70mi to upgrade: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ross-1444/hero/17067630

note: i bought some very cheap stuff to start this dh (mempo, dml, nat chest). Also the amulet and innas pants were from my monk. So imo these would be the first things to upgrade

But which are the 2-3 things that i need to upgrade first...like 20-30mi per item



also, about skills...im running mp0-1 with multishot and its pretty nice....any suggestions about changes in my skill set so I can do it faster? :P

thx


read my guide: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66545548&f=142

Changing your inna pants for one with all res (like 50+ or 60+) would be a reasonably upgrade
Plus I think that you searched Natalya chest with 100+ dex and any vitality(and maybe spike trap bonus). It always has at least 90 dex, so you could easily change for one with 130+ or 150+ vitality and high spike trap bonus.
Get DML with max discipline

That's all for start, after that you can start to look out for some upgrades on gloves and amulet.

Edit: And change the gem in your helm to xp gem
Edit2: And why have you bought Mempo with 34 dex?????? You should change that too.

This post was edited by Cyberbeni on Feb 21 2013 10:02am
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Feb 21 2013 10:13am
Quote (Cyberbeni @ Feb 21 2013 04:00pm)
read my guide: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66545548&f=142

Changing your inna pants for one with all res (like 50+ or 60+) would be a reasonably upgrade
Plus I think that you searched Natalya chest with 100+ dex and any vitality(and maybe spike trap bonus). It always has at least 90 dex, so you could easily change for one with 130+ or 150+ vitality and high spike trap bonus.
Get DML with max discipline

That's all for start, after that you can start to look out for some upgrades on gloves and amulet.

Edit: And change the gem in your helm to xp gem
Edit2: And why have you bought Mempo with 34 dex?????? You should change that too.


Thx man
Yeah, I found nat chest, mempo and dml...These are just temp items :P

Some ppl say that if you cant buy a mempo with cc you should go for a nat helm...that true?
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Feb 21 2013 10:23am
Quote (R0SS @ 21 Feb 2013 17:13)
Thx man
Yeah, I found nat chest, mempo and dml...These are just temp items :P

Some ppl say that if you cant buy a mempo with cc you should go for a nat helm...that true?


If your crit chance is low, you should go for Natalya(for 2 set bonus) or maybe a good rare is good too
I have 50+% crit chance without helm and the high dex+all res+life%+socket+pickup radius is really good on my Mempo. (I had medium dex+crit+socket+pickup radius helm before)
Just don't get Andariels as helm.
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Feb 21 2013 11:23am
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Awoudex-2682/hero/10217174 - my dh (dunno if updated)

currently i have 2 setups with my dh: low mp speedfarm (lower armor/ar gear, higher pickup)
and tanky ball lightning spammer



stats for mp 2-8: 60+cc, 500+cd, 4k+ armor, 35k+life,400+AR, 160k+ dps

perfectionist - archery - nightstalker

bola/volatile - ele/ball light - vault/reduce cost rune - prep/focus mind (have no +max disc on gear, and mostly use it for backtracking, very rarely on tough elites when mass vault is needed) - companion/bat - shadow/gloom

gear: get at least 1 piece with pickup radius, no loh or life leech is needed



stats for mp0-1: 60+cc, 500+cd, 3.5k+ armor, 30k+life, 350+AR, 170k+ dps (noticeable increase in 1-shot clearing when higher than 170k)

vengeance - nightstalker - tactical advantage

bola/volatile - multi/reduced hatred - vault/reduced - shadow/gloom - companion/bat (can be ferret too if low aps and high dps) - chakram/shuriken cloud (you can actually walk through doors, no need to stop and shoot)

with the first one i can do almost anything in the game, with the second one i can get exp rly fast, and i only need to change 2 pieces of gear for the higher mp's

gear: get high pickup radius, minimum 12


you can change bola shot with hunger arrow/spray of teeth with this high CC, but the AoE of bola is always there, which makes it more efficient for mobs (get imminent doom if you are in an uber game ;)

pm me if you have questions or pointers

greetz Arn
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Feb 21 2013 11:27am
Quote (Awoudex @ 21 Feb 2013 18:23)
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Awoudex-2682/hero/10217174 - my dh (dunno if updated)

currently i have 2 setups with my dh: low mp speedfarm (lower armor/ar gear, higher pickup)
and tanky ball lightning spammer



stats for mp 2-8: 60+cc, 500+cd, 4k+ armor, 35k+life,400+AR, 160k+ dps

perfectionist - archery - nightstalker

bola/volatile - ele/ball light - vault/reduce cost rune - prep/focus mind (have no +max disc on gear, and mostly use it for backtracking, very rarely on tough elites when mass vault is needed) -  companion/bat - shadow/gloom

gear: get at least 1 piece with pickup radius, no loh or life leech is needed



stats for mp0-1: 60+cc, 500+cd, 3.5k+ armor, 30k+life, 350+AR, 170k+ dps (noticeable increase in 1-shot clearing when higher than 170k)

vengeance - nightstalker - tactical advantage

bola/volatile - multi/reduced hatred - vault/reduced - shadow/gloom - companion/bat (can be ferret too if low aps and high dps) - chakram/shuriken cloud (you can actually walk through doors, no need to stop and shoot)

with the first one i can do almost anything in the game, with the second one i can get exp rly fast, and i only need to change 2 pieces of gear for the higher mp's

gear: get high pickup radius, minimum 12


you can change bola shot with hunger arrow/spray of teeth with this high CC, but the AoE of bola is always there, which makes it more efficient for mobs (get imminent doom if you are in an uber game ;)

pm me if you have questions or pointers

greetz Arn


If you need 170k dps for MP1 farming, you are doing it really wrong.
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Feb 21 2013 11:31am
Quote (Cyberbeni @ 21 Feb 2013 17:27)
If you need 170k dps for MP1 farming, you are doing it really wrong.


didn't say NEED, it's where it gets really fast because of 1-shooting almost all non-elites, basically you can do it with like 50k dps or even less

Quote (Cyberbeni @ 21 Feb 2013 17:35)
crit chance and crit damage doesn't help you 1-shot a pack of monsters, there will always be monsters who doesn't get critted.


you didn't read the word: almost

This post was edited by Awoudex on Feb 21 2013 11:38am
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Feb 21 2013 11:35am
Quote (Awoudex @ 21 Feb 2013 18:31)
didn't say NEED, it's where it gets really fast because of 1-shooting almost all non-elites, basically you can do it with like 50k dps or even less


crit chance and crit damage doesn't help you 1-shot a pack of monsters, there will always be monsters who doesn't get critted.
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Feb 21 2013 12:48pm
Finally this thread is bumping. Can't wait to get to a desktop to share my input
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Feb 22 2013 09:38am
Cyberbeni / Subzer0isGG (awesome nick btw lol), bought a few upgrades:

new mempo
new dml
new nat chest

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ross-1444/hero/17067630

Here is what Im planning for the next week:
1- buy a 90+dex 50+all res innas
2- craft/buy some dex/allres/as/cc/cd gloves
3- craft/buy a dex/vit/cc/cd amulet

Questions:
How much more %AS do I need? lol...Im getting 54% atm with no %as on gloves or amulet
What about All Res? Should I go for 700+? With my current build i have 250-300...Does it really matter or should I go all damage? With my new innas and maybe some res from amulet or gloves, Ill get ~350

Thoughts?

This post was edited by R0SS on Feb 22 2013 09:49am
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