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Jan 18 2013 08:29pm
Quote (Jeight @ Jan 18 2013 06:24pm)
can anyone link me to a wkl/ef build over 200k dps paper. Finding it a struggle to break through 200 and keep balance.


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Jan 18 2013 08:33pm
Quote (trickykid @ Jan 18 2013 10:29pm)


indeed over 200. I should be more specific a ef w/ LS and a won with LS...your ef is where your picking up the extra over my build...everything else is pretty much the same

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Jan 18 2013 08:49pm
Quote (MONKster @ Jan 18 2013 08:56pm)
Very nice setup .... everything looks good ... just need to bump up res
Nice SOJ ....
I bought 2 SOJs ( FoT & SW )
Sold FoT and kept SW ... what a mistake
But never been a fan of SOJ though
I lose 30K dmg and other useful stats on my ring.

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Thanks, picked mine up today actually for only 100m which I thought was a decent price (6%holy/1.5regen/28%elite/12%FoT). My res all is actually at 825 right now with OWE. In the past 30 minutes I just picked up 130 vit and 35 more res on gloves for a slight sacrifice in dps as well.
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Jan 18 2013 09:05pm
Quote (lagcity @ Jan 18 2013 07:49pm)
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Thanks, picked mine up today actually for only 100m which I thought was a decent price (6%holy/1.5regen/28%elite/12%FoT).  My res all is actually at 825 right now with OWE.  In the past 30 minutes I just picked up 130 vit and 35 more res on gloves for a slight sacrifice in dps as well.


Thats pretty good price .... SOJ skyrocketed in the last few days.

Sold my 5 cold/ 27 elite / 8 FoT for 12M last week. Can get about 40M today.
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Jan 18 2013 09:59pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Jan 18 2013 02:27pm)
Its almost impossible to hit a good dh or wd for more than a 1 sec. Lol

Thats the problem. Gotta tank alot of dmg and regen life fast to continue the chase. So many dot dmg skills on dhs and wds.


well, how long im hitting and how quick i am to tele after is all about attack speed.

so i tele with the first hit, follow up with the second, wd starts to run, 3rd hit does nothing, tele again with the first hit of the combo. so in theory, in less then half a second they would have to run out of range of Fot or do some CC so i cant name lock tele after them.

like with a shield im hitting as fast as most dual wiled monks.

Quote (MONKster @ Jan 18 2013 02:41pm)
Your build looks good.
We need to know what Blizz is gonna to do with LoH / LS when 1.07 goes live.
With range right now, I get couple of shots in then bell = dead... in the mean time, my life is usually quite low from taking their damage.
I rely alot on life regen / pot .... LoH / LS is not helping too much cuz i don't hit them enough.
If Blizz nerf LoH / LS, then its high armour, res, regen, vita.


one of the issues with LOH is people just odnt have enough for it to make a diffrence. another is people sacrafice all kinds of attack speed for damage and ehp. with a shield are you even attacking faster then 3 aps with fot? and the last is dodge, i dont think a dodged hit counts as a hit, but blocked hits seem to.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Jan 18 2013 09:59pm
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Jan 18 2013 11:08pm
Quote (Jeight @ Jan 18 2013 09:33pm)
indeed over 200. I should be more specific a ef w/ LS and a won with LS...your ef is where your picking up the extra over my build...everything else is pretty much the same

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jeight-1142/hero/25946100


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Jan 18 2013 11:33pm
Quote (Ylem122 @ Jan 18 2013 08:59pm)
well, how long im hitting and how quick i am to tele after is all about attack speed.

so i tele with the first hit, follow up with the second, wd starts to run, 3rd hit does nothing, tele again with the first hit of the combo.  so in theory, in less then half a second they would have to run out of range of Fot or do some CC so i cant name lock tele after them.

like with a shield im hitting as fast as most dual wiled monks.


You just gotta try to fight them.. haha Only way to learn.

WDs hit you 2 screens away from with DOT dmg skills.

You finally get to them, you turn to piglet for 4 seconds. haha

And the high end guys run away so good, they just use spirit walk and gone.

We can easily do this if we have 2 serenity. haha

And yeah, I know high attack speed means fast tclap tele. That doesn't work against WDs/DHs who are literally running around with +50% invi 95% of the time.

Stack ehp stats
very high lps
at least 150k dps
+4 spirit regen

this is the formula to fight high end guys.

High dmg / lifesteal / loh, these are all meaningless in pvp against WDs/DHs.

And kinda against barb too since when their Rend skill crits, my 70k hp + 1mil ehp is gone within 4 seconds completely.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Jan 18 2013 11:37pm
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Jan 19 2013 12:29am
Quote (jinshin85 @ Jan 19 2013 12:33am)
You just gotta try to fight them.. haha Only way to learn.

WDs hit you 2 screens away from with DOT dmg skills.

You finally get to them, you turn to piglet for 4 seconds. haha

And the high end guys run away so good, they just use spirit walk and gone.

We can easily do this if we have 2 serenity. haha

And yeah, I know high attack speed means fast tclap tele. That doesn't work against WDs/DHs who are literally running around with +50% invi 95% of the time.

Stack ehp stats
very high lps
at least 150k dps
+4 spirit regen

this is the formula to fight high end guys.

High dmg / lifesteal / loh, these are all meaningless in pvp against WDs/DHs.

And kinda against barb too since when their Rend skill crits, my 70k hp + 1mil ehp is gone within 4 seconds completely.


in 4 seconds i got that back 1 vs 1 melee

plus theres the -20% dmg from enemies that concussion has, and the slow attack/move from the third strike.

plus like, i only put about 150 mil into changing 5 gears so its not exactly what it would be if i had spent like 500 mil

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Jan 19 2013 12:38am
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Jan 19 2013 01:01am
Quote (Ylem122 @ Jan 18 2013 11:29pm)
in 4 seconds i got that back 1 vs 1 melee

plus theres the -20% dmg from enemies that concussion has, and the slow attack/move from the third strike.

plus like, i only put about 150 mil into changing 5 gears so its not exactly what it would be if i had spent like 500 mil


just try it when you can. play against good wds/dhs/barb.

barbs just furious charge/rend/sprint marathon away. dhs are 95% of time, invi and kiting away from you. wds are kiting away from you as well.

you can't hit anyone for +1 second.

but 90% of people who i pvp are easy. i win 1v3 a lot of times too.

just that 10% almost unkillable. lol

btw DH ss / WD sw debuff everything. so anything you do to them when you get close to them gets debuffed.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Jan 19 2013 01:02am
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Jan 19 2013 01:22am
Quote (jinshin85 @ Jan 18 2013 09:33pm)
You just gotta try to fight them.. haha Only way to learn.

WDs hit you 2 screens away from with DOT dmg skills.

You finally get to them, you turn to piglet for 4 seconds. haha

And the high end guys run away so good, they just use spirit walk and gone.

We can easily do this if we have 2 serenity. haha

And yeah, I know high attack speed means fast tclap tele. That doesn't work against WDs/DHs who are literally running around with +50% invi 95% of the time.

Stack ehp stats
very high lps
at least 150k dps
+4 spirit regen

this is the formula to fight high end guys.

High dmg / lifesteal / loh, these are all meaningless in pvp against WDs/DHs.

And kinda against barb too since when their Rend skill crits, my 70k hp + 1mil ehp is gone within 4 seconds completely.


That's why you doln't "attack"...

with a good WD, if he isn't using hex right away, you are good to go. You tele on, BLIND (with ECHO), and drop a bell. If spirit walk, tele or Dash if you have it. either eat the hex or wait it out. Your 2nd blind should hit about now. next telestomp, you SSS.

This post was edited by kylezo on Jan 19 2013 01:23am
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