Quote (Mad1Lee @ Feb 10 2013 12:49pm)

Watched the first twenty minutes of your video versus number one wizard in the world (Frostburn). Pretty surprised you were trying to tweak hard to find a counter but you didn't use ice climbers, which is like 500 additional resists versus his damage. Maybe you used later in the video, still haven't finished watching it. But if you found a way to kill him it's pretty sad, because he is the best we (wizards) got, and his gear is worth probably 20 times more than gear on your barb's. Says a lot about how this "brawling" will be anything but fair.

Quote (mannercookie @ Feb 11 2013 12:02am)

Yes in the end once I found my spec, it was I think 14-2 for me, and we stopped cuz it seemed pretty hopeless for him.

You got to keep in mind, PVP gear hasn't reached it's correct prices yet, PVP pieces are getting more scarce and expensive daily.

So although it looks like his gear may be worth more in a PvE sense and mine look pretty welfare, in a PVP sense my gear is almost near perfect imo and will be worth a lot more in the future.

Quote (Mad1Lee @ Feb 10 2013 01:06pm)

But still he's got like top of the top items I mean, pvp or pve his char is worth ~60+ bill. But really, no ice climbers? Straight 10% reduction from his attacks? Wasn't that easy to guess?

Quote (mannercookie @ Feb 11 2013 12:15am)

honestly, it didn't even occur to me that I needed the extra 10%, it was a matter of dealing with his skills/spec.

you can see later on the 10% makes would've made no difference.

Quote (Mad1Lee @ Feb 10 2013 01:18pm)

obviously, but straight 10% damage reduction versus 640k dps wizard gotta be game changing

Quote (mannercookie @ Feb 11 2013 12:27am)

I suppose so, didn't need to bother testing it since didn't get to that point but yes it will help but def not a game changer.

The reason is because he doesn't do any damage except when I'm in frost nova since it is very difficult to hit ray of frost vs a moving target.

so whether I had another 10-20% more reduction or not, if I get caught in nova without IP and less than 50% hp, I was pretty much dead.

don't get me wrong though, next time I'm up vs that spec I would def prefer ice climbers

Quote (Mad1Lee @ Feb 10 2013 01:59pm)

really sad thing is that next time you can only be against this exact player. Because any top50 wizard wouldn't probably even get close to you since the one you fought is really no1 by a huge margin. Sad news for wizards, really. BTW, is it possible to make pvp barb for 100 mill? How good/bad would be this char?

Quote (mowmow721 @ Feb 10 2013 08:39pm)

Wizards are really boned when it comes to PvP, regardless of gear. Skills all suck and passives all suck too. CC break is also awful. We literally have nothing.

Storm armor (wizards signature PvP move) is just useless when it comes to anyone with decent EHP. I'm not surprised Frostburn lost, even though his gear is 10x better.

Quote (mannercookie @ Feb 11 2013 07:43am)

Although I agree wizards are pretty boned, in terms of his gear being 10x better, from a pvp standpoint is very false.