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Aug 15 2013 12:27am
Quote (Madafaq @ Aug 9 2013 05:23pm)
allright thanks i give it a go


I dont really agree with your current skill setup, i would go with these:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#chPRUZ!ZYg!ZZcYZZ
(change the Overpower to Rend and change the Whirlwind's rune to hurricane)

Also, the witching hour might sound good and overhyped, but with the recent mob density, i would change the belt to a similar IK belt, would pimp your EHP a lot (allres from the item, allres from the set bonus aswell) and would open the door to play with Brawler passive rather Bloodthirst. The Brawler itself will give more dps than the 9ias 43cd, exspecially if you put the Echoing Fury into your mainhand and the sword goes offhand.


Against the elites, just hit hota and cast a rend (blood lust) every 4 second, i dont think they could kill you :)
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Aug 15 2013 07:27am
Quote (Makkertest @ Aug 15 2013 01:14am)
Forget Tal armor, you need IK chest.
The Soj totally worth it, when you go vs elites. I would say that you should keep the Soj in your inventory, and when you spot a pack, just use right click to switch it with your left Ring. This also means you should keep the better rare one in the right slot.
I also do the same with my hota soj / unity
Even your ias goes down and you miss some extra tick break, the 29% bonus damage from the soj is just HUGE. For me, it gives 400k more crit dps (when i use hota smash).


tldr:
So, learn how to switch the rings fast and you will be happy. :)



Thanks for your input! I actually got really lucky with a trifecta amulet craft so i still hit 2.5 bp with SOJ on. Really happy about last night craft haha.
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Aug 15 2013 02:19pm
Quote (faintinggoat @ Aug 14 2013 01:15pm)
Hey guys, several questions.

1: Upgrade my barb: http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/heh-1586/Mule/33616397
I would like to switch to 1-handers because the slow attack speed of Skorn irritates me, but I don't have much gold to spend (currently 80M). Should I save for a good set of 1-hand weapons, or should I focus on improving other parts of my gear?

2: As I'm using a hybrid WW/HOTA build, are breakpoints really important since the bulk of my dps comes from HOTA? I know my current attack speed is really bad with regards to breakpoints...

3: I managed to find a Sever with 1100+ dps, ~60 crit dmg and 24% bonus dmg to demons. Is the bonus damage against demons useful against ubers? Does the bonus damage apply to both mainhand and offhand attacks?


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Aug 15 2013 03:16pm
Quote (faintinggoat @ Aug 15 2013 03:19pm)
Bump. Anyone?


1st. Don't use a sever.
2nd. Don't look at dps. Look at average damage.

If you want to switch to 2 one handers for HOTA you should definitely save more than 80mil.
Hota is gear dependent since you need 2 high average damage weapons and reduce hammer belt or SOJ to run correctly. Using IK belt lowers your dps since you lose WH. A decent reduce hammer SOJ is a hefty price. I don't think 80mil will get you great results.

On the other hand you can play WW/rend. You only need one high average damage mainhand and a EF with crap dps works fine. You can stick with your WH and you don't have to use SOJ(you can). Allows you to be much more glassy since no standing and tanking damage. Just as fast HOTA. As an alternative cause I can't do Skorn either.


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Aug 15 2013 03:39pm
Quote (andrewcvety @ Aug 15 2013 04:16pm)
1st. Don't use a sever.
2nd. Don't look at dps. Look at average damage.

If you want to switch to 2 one handers for HOTA you should definitely save more than 80mil.
Hota is gear dependent since you need 2 high average damage weapons and reduce hammer belt or SOJ to run correctly. Using IK belt lowers your dps since you lose WH. A decent reduce hammer SOJ is a hefty price. I don't think 80mil will get you great results.

On the other hand you can play WW/rend. You only need one high average damage mainhand and a EF with crap dps works fine. You can stick with your WH and you don't have to use SOJ(you can). Allows you to be much more glassy since no standing and tanking damage. Just as fast HOTA. As an alternative cause I can't do Skorn either.


Thanks for the tips.

I rolled an almost perfect sever (closest thing I got to perfection) so I'm sad that it's next to useless =( [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/knUdULo.png[/IMG]

What kind of 1-handers should I aim for, with what budget? Should I save up to get a mainhand mace with the ideal set of rolls (1000 dmg, 1.2 aps, CD, socket, lifesteal, str) or just get a cheaper one without CD and/or strength? And I'm guessing I should also go for an EF with lifesteal and socket?

I'll try out the rend build later with my skorn. I ran it for a while when I had poorer gear, kept dying when trying to cast rend because of the low attack speed -_-

This post was edited by faintinggoat on Aug 15 2013 03:41pm
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Aug 15 2013 10:35pm
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JuzamDjinn-1954/hero/27648196

<200mil total with gems. Farms Mp10 you can use as budget guide. Before you drop gold make sure A) you are good at keeping beserker B ) you don't find yourself bashing to keep beserker. Otherwise it will be overwhelming to play effectively.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JuzamDjinn-1954/hero/26994901

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Aug 16 2013 04:39am
Quote (Pokerbill05 @ Aug 5 2013 02:40pm)
You don't want to die? For 1.8b you not only can stop dying, but clear Mp10 with speed and ease.
But you have to go through a mental re-adjustment. You need to take out what Cro has taught you,
and you need to stop looking at the top DPS 400k+ Barbs. Unless you have a good 1k to drop on it.

I'll explain my choices in depth for you, but I'll also link my profile, and a different persons
profile so you get an idea.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Pokerbill05-1829/

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DoWArMyOfOnE-1950/hero/13267441

Basically you are going for 5 peice IK / Skorn. I'll give you the basics for this build.

Vitality should be on all peices except Weapon, Rings, Amulet. I choose to get life on my amulet
but it's preference.

You only need 1.29 attack speed for your skorn. This is easily obtainable on just a few peices of
gear. Amulet, Rings, and/or Gloves. Inna's pants.

Don't fall victim to Witching Hours and Ice Climbers. Yea they might make your inventory page DPS
look nicer. But in the long run, with my setup IK runs better.

Your three most important peices. IK Belt, Skorn, Inna's Pants.

IK Belt: You are looking for high strength... 260+ Any vitality, Life Steal 2.8+
but most importantly a useful skill reducer. Rend. Why buy a belt with threat shout on it that you
dont use?

Skorn: Your baby, where your hard damage comes from. You are looking for 5% Life Steal,
190+ CHD, Strength, 1300+ Weapon Damage. You are rocking a 1.8b budget, you could easily spend
1.8b and get a near perfect Skorn. Let's settle for the 700-800 mark so you can upgrade your other
peices.

Inna's Pants: First off, 9% attack speed. There's no reason to settle for the mass amount of 8% ones.
Secondly the most important part. No strength. WAIT WHAT DID HE SAY? NO STR FOR MY BABA? Yes, you
are wasting stat points that can be used in your most important stat slot. Vitality. Why gain an
extra 2k damage from a few strength points, when you can gain an extra 5-6k HP from going Vitality.
Sure stick some Strength gems in the sockets, but you are looking at Vitality on Pants. Shoot for 175+


But Bill, why are these peices so important? Well padawan, let me tell you. Survivability

8% Life Steal Free's up the Rune on your Rend, and a passive skill slot. No Need for life steal
passive anymore. Your rends with the Ravage rune will now generate more life per second than you can
think to do with. As long as rend is up you can stand still and stay alive, no need for other
actions. Your passive slot can now go several different directions. My favorite is superstition and
Thorns, however Maximus likes to go Brawler. My honest opinion on Brawler is it's just overkill.
You are adding roughly 100k more damage, but it's not really necessary. Why not extra survivability
with fury from being hit which increases your WOTB uptime.


The best part about this build, is you can use it for any scenario or any farming routine on any MP.
You want to farm Legs and get as much EXP per hour. Go Rend/WW Nado's. You will kill extremely fast,
MP10 is a breeze.

You need DE's? Simple, Bash/HOTA/Rend has proven me a bit faster for farming these. Put up rend,
Bash 3x then HOTA. Elites dead in 6-7 hits.

Want to party farm ubers or solo them? Very simple. Throw that SOJ on.
Bash/Hota/Rend... Swap one passive for Thorns. One skill slot for Warcry with Extra armor.
You are an Uber machine, you can't die because you are rocking 8% Lifesteal on Rend. More if
you use the LS rend rune for Ubers. I do. Easily rocking 9.5k+ Armor. Same deal as farming DE's.
Keep Rend up, 3x Bash. Hota for 5 seconds. Rinse repeat. My fastest time was realm of turmoil solo.
No you cannot kill the ubers in 30 seconds. It takes roughly 2 minutes with my build. However it's
virtually impossible to die, and you didn't spend 1k on a build solely for 1 purpose. Get bored of
Ubers? Just swap a few skills around and your build is A game for farming again.



I assure you, your 1.8b will be well spent investing into this build. You can easily accomplish
this build with as little as 500m and can still farm mp10. Anything over 500m is only going to
speed up the process of everything you do.







FAQ:

Q: But bill, I spent 10b on my Echoing Fury, why you no EF?
A: Simple, Hota hits harder with Skorn. Rend damage comes from main hand damage. When using a
WW/Rend build your most damage doesn't come from WW or Sprint Nados, it comes from your Rend.

Q: But but but Bill, I have so much attack speed with my EF!
A: Good job, it's not needed and still isn't doing more damage than a Skorn.

Q: But Bill, I can fear stuff and it won't hurt me with my EF!
A: Congrats, you are now fearing mobs so you have to chase them, aren't taking damage so no fury
gains there. Splitting mobs up so Rend won't hit them. And losing a lot of time chasing after 1 mob
while looking stupid doing it.

Q: Bill wait! I got you, I see the highest DPS Barb in America wearing Strength Inna's. You're wrong.
A: Yes, he also has invested roughly 300b+ on his gear since release. He can have 90 Strength on
his pants because he can afford to have perfect vitality stats on all his other peices, and on places
you can't afford.

Q: Why not a tal's chest for some more Attack Speed?
A: The required Attack Speed mark you need to hit is 1.29. You can easily achieve that from Rings,
Inna pants and either Gloves or amulet. 5 Peice IK, do not break it. You'll look stupid doing it too.

Q: But bill, Crit mempo's are the godliest of godly items in this game.
A: I agree, Mempo is an amazing item, however it's uneccesary for this buid. You don't need the
attack speed. You do need the 5 peice IK set. You get more EHP and Survivability from an IK helm.
Trust me, stick with the IK helm. Unless you are rich and can drop a few g's on this game. Stick
with my 5 peice build.


Your build works like a charm.. Only thing for me is keeping the WOTB up all the time(or at least long enough to cast it again)..

ATM I think insanity works better for me in a short period of time.

Any thoughts on generating fury better? (atm 61,5 CC with gear and passive, and 1.34aps)
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Aug 16 2013 07:10am
Quote (andrewcvety @ Aug 15 2013 11:35pm)
[URL=http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JuzamDjinn-1954/hero/27648196]http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JuzamDjinn-1954/hero/27648196[/URL]

<200mil total with gems. Farms Mp10 you can use as budget guide. Before you drop gold make sure A) you are good at keeping beserker B ) you don't find yourself bashing to keep beserker. Otherwise it will be overwhelming to play effectively.

[URL=http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JuzamDjinn-1954/hero/26994901]http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JuzamDjinn-1954/hero/26994901[/URL]


Thanks. I've currently spent about 500-600M on my barb, decent upgrades are getting expensive =/

Currently I can maintain WOTB indefinitely in high pack density areas. I only fail to maintain WOTB effectively against certain ubers. If I switch to mace + EF, it should be even easier for me to keep up WOTB even while fighting single elites/ubers.

I've tried using rend instead of WOTB (with my Skorn), didn't really like it. I died more often due to running into a middle of a pack to rend instead of standing in a strategic corner and using HOTA. Maybe it's my playstyle.. I'll try again once I finally switch to dual wielding.
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Aug 21 2013 01:18pm
Just wondering what you guys think I should do to get my barb running mp8 efficiently. I'm doing mp5 right now. I don't have a huge budget to work from, is there any way to reach my goal with 1b-1.5b for upgrades?


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