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#61
Jun 27 2012 03:05am
Quote (Shirl86 @ Jun 27 2012 08:45am)
i defenetly want a tank buddy to make it through!


Or you can see it as Kite-training :D.
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#62
Jun 27 2012 03:08am
Quote (AnEnergy @ Jun 27 2012 11:05am)
Or you can see it as Kite-training :D.


ya that's what i do, beside farming A1, hate play 1-2 hrs to make basically no gold and 1-2 quests progress or just ragequit :(
ofc all champ packs come out with reflect, vortex, fast, extra life these days... ffs
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#63
Jun 27 2012 03:27am
Quote (Shirl86 @ Jun 27 2012 09:08am)
ya that's what i do, beside farming A1, hate play 1-2 hrs to make basically no gold and 1-2 quests progress or just ragequit :(
ofc all champ packs come out with reflect, vortex, fast, extra life these days... ffs


I also think Reflect mobs have increased a lot since 1.03. But since im Playing Hybrid now that aint a problem anymore^^ (More probs with invul. Minions)
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#64
Jun 27 2012 06:31am
mmh wanna try swap bat for Impale (Grievous Wounds) against elites... i never tried it i'm curious to see a full effect Impale dmg :)
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#65
Jun 27 2012 06:40am
Quote (AnEnergy @ Jun 27 2012 03:17am)
@AznMasta:

Where do you see the advantage of NT over BL with the Gloom build? BL should crit more often with similar damage --> More Discipline.
Or do you normally use Nats helmet? I try not to rely on nats set as there was already a bluepost in us forums saying that theyre considering a nerf of the set (I hope that only concerns the 4 set Bonus, not the 2+3 one).

I still have to work on my Resis, but except for InvulMinions+Arcane+Vortex in A3/4 I tank pretty well. (there I still rely on Kiting^^)


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=63444843&f=142

With ENOUGH dps, ball lightnings is better due to bigger AoE radius (if u can kill stuff in 1 hit, why not make your range to hit people bigger as well)

but with the average DH, i believe NT is better.... I myself use ball lightning because my DPS is good enough for that.... but i dont always recommend it

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jun 27 2012 06:42am
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#66
Jun 27 2012 06:46am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jun 27 2012 12:40pm)
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=63444843&f=142

With ENOUGH dps, ball lightnings is better due to bigger AoE radius (if u can kill stuff in 1 hit, why not make your range to hit people bigger as well)

but with the average DH, i believe NT is better.... I myself use ball lightning because my DPS is good enough for that.... but i dont always recommend it


I just hit 80k still improving...^^ maybe thats the reason I couldnt befriend with NT anymore.
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#67
Jun 28 2012 01:48am
Taking an in-depth look at some skills+runes and got a few questions/considerations:

Hungering Arrow - Spray of Teeth
This skill is somehow interesting... the base dmg of Hungering Arrow is +115%, the rune says that, if u crit, it makes a small explosion of teeths for 50% dmg... now... with SS we know that the "perma crits" effect lasts 1 sec, therefore it affect up to 2-3 arrows and, ofc also the rune's effect.
I noticed that spray of teeth also hits the primary target and, since to make it work it must be a crit, the primary target gets the direct hit (+crit) + teeths (+crits) and all the other targets get teeths only (+crits)... multiply this for 2 arrows and, if it pierce, even more... u get some actual crazy dmg!

Let's say we have 50k DPS and 200% crit dmg... u fire 2 arrows, 1 of them pierce so it's basically 3 arrows dealing:
Primary target gets: 50k DPS * 115% + 200% + (25k DPS * 200%)*3
Around targets get: (25k DPS * 200%)*3
Is this madness? lol
It would be almost always better than Devouring Arrow since it deals a standard 165% on crit (and every respectable DH as a 30%+ crit chance), while Devouring deals 185% when pierce... if they both pierce + crit that would be:
Devouring: 115% + 185% + 200%
Spray of Teeth: 165% + 165% + 200% + AoE!!

Evasive Fire - Covering Fire
This skill deals 125% dmg and with this rune, fires up to 3 targets... i never tried it so my question is:
does it fire ALWAYS to 3 targets or just when we backflip?
This one is interesting also because there isnt actually a "flying arrow" it's an insta-shot that never miss (correct me if i'm wrong about this)
Therefore if it's a 3*125% shoots that got 100% chance to hit it would be actually very good vs kiting monsters!

What do u think about these 2 skills?
/discuss!

This post was edited by Shirl86 on Jun 28 2012 01:48am
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#68
Jun 28 2012 02:32am
trash guide, spray of teeth > all. Bol has the same damage coefficient as nt. which means bol>nt always. Bol will hit belial 4 times at least.
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#69
Jun 28 2012 02:40am
Quote (Alphawaves @ Jun 28 2012 10:32am)
Bol has the same damage coefficient as nt. which means bol>nt always. Bol will hit belial 4 times at least.


argument?
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#70
Jun 28 2012 05:23am
well since no argument = useless post i'll just say that NT > Bolas cause of Bolas has no pierce,
will give them a tryout (already did but not after 1.0.3 and not with all runes)
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