I actually learned alot about kiting from that video such as shooting through walls to get distance etc, I will retry eventually but I still need 1 or 2 ias rings to get atleast 2.0 aps im at 1.75 with no rings yet.

facing a2, i had tried 2 setups:

- shielded (20% block), over 8k+ armor, 1k+ allres, energy armor with prismatic, 40k life and 15k dps, playin defensive and thinking "ah, i can do dps and take few hits like nightmare..."

and

- glass cannon, 50k dps, 20k life, energy armor w/ force armor, 3hits = dead or, if you prefer, desecration = smoked
instant spiders = your worse nightmare

but... i can tell ya: go glass cannon. dead mobs dont hit ya. learn to play and kite it

Great post, can definitely tell you put a lot of effort into this. first butcher run using this build and it works like a charm.

not sure what you guys are talking about ive killed seigebreaker in inferno with 2 people in the game (other guy died early and with 2 you dont have much time to res so i didnt even try)
all you have to do is run in a big circle and spam blizz/hydra throw a few peircing orbs in when u can and when he jumps a few times up and down start running in a big ass curve away from him lol
i didnt even get hit by him doing this with just bojs

This post was edited by Mense4411 on Jun 6 2012 02:29pm

Yes, and bojs have run speed on them. "barely enough" implies enough

the debate was between 25 frw and 12 frw think the bojs i have have 10 frw and im confident i could do the same thing without any frw =P
basically what im saying is the seigebreaker was the easiest semiboss ive done
not the fastest killed but easiest

This post was edited by Mense4411 on Jun 6 2012 02:54pm

Yes, that was what the debate was about. You misinterpreted me as being on the 25% side, and I was clarifying my position. He probably can be done with less (perhaps even none), although even with 12 right now I'm averaging roughly the same speed as he is. As this average includes my stutterstepping, it would probably mean less casting to maintain the speed needed to avoid him (now that I have thought this through, I can say that the movement speed is being specced offensively here, not defensively). There is almost no way to get hit by him barring him catching up to you, so as long as you can maintain his speed or go faster you shouldn't ever die.

EDIT: I went back and thought about all I wrote on this as a whole. I should have said ~12 was optimal, not required

This post was edited by qgan0914 on Jun 6 2012 03:17pm

all good man just confusion and turns out we were arguing the same thing lol i dont really find frw needed for most mobs anyway, i mean its nice but with most of the a3-a4 stuff theyre gonna
catch up anyways espcially if you use teleport which makes up for the frw (which i dont use usually) shrug* like everything on this game its personal preference =P

Diablo 3: Bug with Hydra + Life on Kill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kneo95ffh9E

NO!! See, now it's going to get nerfed.