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Feb 3 2013 05:01am
Quote (]GS[ Controller @ Feb 3 2013 08:38am)
Great points.

I would say it comes down to choice 2 or 3.

2- Would still allow for 150+ regen in gear so I think that, yes this is a good choice but we still need more.

3- this might be the answer with a few exception.  We limit life regen # you can have  to something that allows for any character vs character to sustain a duel with.
ie. a wiz with even 40-50 life regen can out match a barb due to a high amount of dmg reduction via diamond skin while the barb struggles to output dmg because most of his time is spent trying to close gaps and when he gets in close diamond skin goes up.
There are ofc other examples.

I would say we need to carefully come up with a certain number of life regeneration to limit the duels to, rather than the items themselves.


I am trying to think of a good way to test this and a few things come to mind.

We could shoot for duels that last 30 seconds to a minute to keep things interesting and intense rather than drawn out.
By doing this we would restrict rep to a certain number, and test a lot of different match up's using this same, or close, number of rep and see if most of the duels end up roughly in the same time period.

I have always felt as well that breath and serenity with heal was overpowered since it equates to 70++ rep in a long duel which stacks up with existing  rep.

Interested in hearing what other people think.


Its really hard to ban something with, well, no exact stat

I mean, banning items that has reg won't happen, and it also seems pretty stupid to me, specially to just ban it if you really dont need it

People might say they want their boots since it has both x stats, ms and reg, while I decided that it would be unfair to have reg and just go stats

Not sure if anyone gets my point, I recently woke up, so my english coulf be kinda blurry


Quote (]GS[ Controller @ Feb 3 2013 08:38am)
Great points.

I would say it comes down to choice 2 or 3.

2- Would still allow for 150+ regen in gear so I think that, yes this is a good choice but we still need more.

3- this might be the answer with a few exception.  We limit life regen # you can have  to something that allows for any character vs character to sustain a duel with.
ie. a wiz with even 40-50 life regen can out match a barb due to a high amount of dmg reduction via diamond skin while the barb struggles to output dmg because most of his time is spent trying to close gaps and when he gets in close diamond skin goes up.
There are ofc other examples.

I would say we need to carefully come up with a certain number of life regeneration to limit the duels to, rather than the items themselves.


I am trying to think of a good way to test this and a few things come to mind.

We could shoot for duels that last 30 seconds to a minute to keep things interesting and intense rather than drawn out.
By doing this we would restrict rep to a certain number, and test a lot of different match up's using this same, or close, number of rep and see if most of the duels end up roughly in the same time period.

I have always felt as well that breath and serenity with heal was overpowered since it equates to 70++ rep in a long duel which stacks up with existing  rep.

Interested in hearing what other people think.


I actually just think we should set a cap at 150 or so

And there will always be running in duels, they will most likely also take longer than 30s - 1min, even without reg

This post was edited by Orvar on Feb 3 2013 05:05am
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Feb 3 2013 06:14am
What about level 20? Do we suffer with the same replenish problem at 20 bracket? (Considering gear, skills/passives)

I didn't test lvl 20s yet but probably Controlled has some info/results.
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Feb 3 2013 06:28am
Just tried PvP, and what a disappointment :bonk:
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Feb 3 2013 06:31am
Quote (Abefar @ Feb 3 2013 01:28pm)
Just tried PvP, and what a disappointment  :bonk:


LLD/HLD?

Or just the arena itself?
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Feb 3 2013 06:37am
Quote (Orvar @ Feb 3 2013 01:31pm)
LLD/HLD?

Or just the arena itself?


HLD

Haven't tried LLD yet, might be more fun, but HLD blows.

The arena sucks though imo.
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Feb 3 2013 06:42am
Quote (Abefar @ Feb 3 2013 01:37pm)
HLD

Haven't tried LLD yet, might be more fun, but HLD blows.

The arena sucks though imo.


I thought HLD was pretty lousy too

LLD was better :p
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Feb 3 2013 06:50am
Quote (Orvar @ Feb 3 2013 01:42pm)
I thought HLD was pretty lousy too

LLD was better :p


Ye, I rly hope so too ^^

However, my gems etc didn't get copied, so gotta w8 some time before I can LLD :blink:
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Feb 3 2013 06:52am
Quote (Abefar @ Feb 3 2013 01:50pm)
Ye, I rly hope so too ^^

However, my gems etc didn't get copied, so gotta w8 some time before I can LLD  :blink:


What gems do u need? Ill get it for u
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Feb 3 2013 07:12am
Quote (Orvar @ Feb 3 2013 01:52pm)
What gems do u need? Ill get it for u


Hmm, like 8 flawless emeralds, 1 ruby, 1 ame
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