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Jan 7 2013 08:00pm
Quote (LoadingZone @ Jan 7 2013 04:46pm)
hi i would like to know what do you ppl think i should upgrade next (i supose neck maybe)... the thing is i dont like manticore xD to slow... quite happy with calamity's aps atm... so other up would be a higher dps calamity...
lmk what you ppl think..

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Churlas-2579/hero/19482020


neck and yellow ring is screaming for upgrade

This post was edited by Shamx on Jan 7 2013 08:01pm
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Jan 8 2013 05:10am
Quote (Shamx @ Jan 8 2013 02:00am)
neck and yellow ring is screaming for upgrade



will try to do something about it... any other ideas?
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Jan 8 2013 05:29am
Quote (VVR4ITH @ Jan 7 2013 04:53pm)
Not really sure where to post this as I'm putting together a written guide for these forums, but here's a peek at my Strafer build with gameplay for doing Alkaizer runs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAeFVOScKdg


Great video man, well explained. This man seems to know his stuff follow his guide and you will be on your way to getting a good strafe DH (most fun build of all IMO :D )

I would like to really point out one part of information (perhaps you covered this on your gameplay video -- sorry for re-stating if you have) Shadow Power's Life steal DOES NOT WORK IF ACTIVATED MID-STRAFE -- YOU MUST STOP cast shadow power and strafing again. Get used to this soon and you will avoid "wtf what happened" deaths against reflects and moltens. This is very annoying and I hope they fix it, would make the super relaxed strafe build even more relaxed :D

Also, I have been experimenting with a new spec of skills and it has pushed my speed per run and xp per min significantly -- based on his build I would have everything same except for Vault/Tumble and instead of Preparation I would bring Rain Of Vengeance/Dark Cloud.

Basically, event hough I'm running this build at 200k unbuffed with legacy set 26 Pick Up Radius, I still find it lacks in DPS to push the Mp0 run time to the lowest limit (which would be best xp per min as well) with this skill it has given me enough DPS and its a lot more viable for Non-Legacy users than my old build which was Caltrops/Jagged Spikes instead of Preparation.

Since I don't run another Discipline-cost Skill I can drop Night Stalker (as a legacy of course) and run Archery --> Tactical + Vengeance + Archery, improving my dps even further. This has taken me to achieve 85m-90m EXP/Hour combined with Raoha's Route (I even slightly modified this route for myself slightly) which is MUCH more XP-Efficient than Alkaizer's route to begin with + Hellfire + 29% Ruby + (hellfire and 26% leorics) on merc.

Do your own testing -- Time the runs + Count the XP -- Most of the carries offered on JSP Services section are not worth the time/money as far as XP goes as the xp per min is extremely low, specially since a lot of them are carrying 2-3 people and increasing to mp1 and mp2 which makes it even less efficient and its not even more loot optimized since the optimal mp for loot is mp3.

This post was edited by donkilluminatiV on Jan 8 2013 05:32am
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Jan 8 2013 05:44am
I've got my strafing up and running. What and where can I change/upgrade? I still seem to die and run out of hatred.

http://d3up.com/b/245238
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/L3ETSauce-1257/hero/30115592
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I've got my strafing up and running. What and where can I change/upgrade? I still seem to die and run out of hatred.

http://d3up.com/b/245238
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/L3ETSauce-1257/hero/30115592


Hey man, great to see other DHs starting to use this build. -- I will be streaming tomorrow when I'm playing not sure when thats gonna be though but if you are on check it out and ask questions if you like.

This is all going by what your Armory currently says (not sure if you are just testing or something).

First off, to help you survive you want to use Gloom in your Shadow Power (read my previous post on how to correctly use Shadow Power) , I would not recommend using other runes if you are not naturally tanky -- so if you're dying use gloom --

Second, Killing stuff before it kills you -- popping more globes for more hatred -- use the higher DPS runes on strafe being Demolition (personal favorite) or Rocket Storm.

If you have trouble with resource management -- Change trail of cinders for Tumble

As for your SOJ, since you are mostly killing white mobs I recommend using a regular ring instead of this, it hurts your DPS in the long run if you are sub 125k dps.

Swap out that mempo, you don't need atack speed for this build, in fact it hurts you.

Get some crit chance on your ammy, you need this for night stalker procs -- Also, *Demoliton has the highest proc rate out of all the Strafe runes*

Hope this helps man.

Also, I forgot to mention this before. I'm in the middle of testing the effects of Attack Speed on Strafe ASIDE from the Hatred Drain.

It seems that attack speed affects how fast and how many GRENADES come out of the Demolition rune, it SEEMS to be more attack speed = more/faster shooting of grenades. I have been testing this VS. Azmodan with a very similar (a few dex off) DMLs one with 20% Ias and one with 10% ias and when I have the 20% and I do pure strafe Azmodan dies faster and I believe it comes from the grenade DPS. Still in the testing phase perhaps someone can better test this, just came across this by accident tonight. Obviously, increasing attack speed would not be optimal unless you had enough hated regen and pick up radius to make up for the hatred loss anyway, so it is not recommended unless you can make up the higher hatred drain.

This post was edited by donkilluminatiV on Jan 8 2013 06:06am
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Jan 8 2013 03:43pm
Quote (MalikGowon @ Jan 8 2013 07:44am)
I've got my strafing up and running. What and where can I change/upgrade? I still seem to die and run out of hatred.

http://d3up.com/b/245238
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/L3ETSauce-1257/hero/30115592

You can swap out a Ring for Natalya's Reflection and get an additional 20 Discipline. You'll be able to use the ToC rune as a secondary source of damage to buy yourself some time for your Hatred to regenerate and maybe proc a few Health Globes.

Check my guide out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAeFVOScKdg

This post was edited by VVR4ITH on Jan 8 2013 03:43pm
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Jan 8 2013 03:58pm
So I gifted my monks items to my DH for the timebeing to learn to play a new class, not sure how well it worked out, so give me any tips!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Recon-1386/hero/16825958


also, can i use the strafe build with this setup to paragon lvl mp1?
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So I gifted my monks items to my DH for the timebeing to learn to play a new class, not sure how well it worked out, so give me any tips!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Recon-1386/hero/16825958


also, can i use the strafe build with this setup to paragon lvl mp1?


Don't paragon in mp1 its far less XP-Loot efficient, Bonus item percent is only 1% so no difference in loot farming and much worse for exp farming unless you have great gear (even then mp0 wud be faster still).

Act 3 All monsters are already level 63 in mp0 as well.

Paragon level mp0
Loot farm mp3

I recommend you grab some pick up radius. Perhaps find a Nats Embrace with Hatred Regen or Pick up Radius with Strafe Crit Chance.

This post was edited by donkilluminatiV on Jan 8 2013 04:07pm
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Jan 8 2013 04:11pm
Quote (donkilluminatiV @ Jan 8 2013 04:56am)
Hey man, great to see other DHs starting to use this build. -- I will be streaming tomorrow when I'm playing not sure when thats gonna be though but if you are on check it out and ask questions if you like.

This is all going by what your Armory currently says (not sure if you are just testing or something).

First off, to help you survive you want to use Gloom in your Shadow Power (read my previous post on how to correctly use Shadow Power) , I would not recommend using other runes if you are not naturally tanky -- so if you're dying use gloom --

Second, Killing stuff before it kills you -- popping more globes for more hatred -- use the higher DPS runes on strafe being Demolition (personal favorite) or Rocket Storm.

If you have trouble with resource management -- Change trail of cinders for Tumble

As for your SOJ, since you are mostly killing white mobs I recommend using a regular ring instead of this, it hurts your DPS in the long run if you are sub 125k dps.

Swap out that mempo, you don't need atack speed for this build, in fact it hurts you.

Get some crit chance on your ammy, you need this for night stalker procs -- Also, *Demoliton has the highest proc rate out of all the Strafe runes*

Hope this helps man.

Also, I forgot to mention this before. I'm in the middle of testing the effects of Attack Speed on Strafe ASIDE from the Hatred Drain.

It seems that attack speed affects how fast and how many GRENADES come out of the Demolition rune, it SEEMS to be more attack speed = more/faster shooting of grenades. I have been testing this VS. Azmodan with a very similar (a few dex off) DMLs one with 20% Ias and one with 10% ias and when I have the 20% and I do pure strafe Azmodan dies faster and I believe it comes from the grenade DPS. Still in the testing phase perhaps someone can better test this, just came across this by accident tonight. Obviously, increasing attack speed would not be optimal unless you had enough hated regen and pick up radius to make up for the hatred loss anyway, so it is not recommended unless you can make up the higher hatred drain.


Thanks for the input. I looked at your setup and worked around my gear to increase that DPS. Also, trying to get another 6-7 pickup radius in either my pants or shoulders without losing much DPS.

Quote (VVR4ITH @ Jan 8 2013 02:43pm)
You can swap out a Ring for Natalya's Reflection and get an additional 20 Discipline. You'll be able to use the ToC rune as a secondary source of damage to buy yourself some time for your Hatred to regenerate and maybe proc a few Health Globes.

Check my guide out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAeFVOScKdg


Discipline wise, I don't run out, just a matter of health globes dropping and getting them. At least how much @res should I have? Here's my updated stuff:

http://d3up.com/b/245238
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/L3ETSauce-1257/hero/30115592

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Jan 8 2013 04:21pm
Quote (MalikGowon @ Jan 8 2013 06:11pm)
Thanks for the input. I looked at your setup and worked around my gear to increase that DPS. Also, trying to get another 6-7 pickup radius in either my pants or shoulders without losing much DPS.



Discipline wise, I don't run out, just a matter of health globes dropping and getting them. At least how much @res should I have? Here's my updated stuff:

http://d3up.com/b/245238
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/L3ETSauce-1257/hero/30115592

If you watched my guide, you would've known by now. ;)

400+ All Res is where you want to be at, but you can get away with 325 All Res.
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