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Jan 16 2013 05:08pm
Wow! amazing thread with great info! Thanks everyone! :)

I'm returning to the game and worry my barb is a bit outdated though :(
I'm still repping a Mighty Weapon/Dagger combo and IK Helm...

I notice the new things to do are Echofury/Mempo/Ice climbers...etc

Im just curious if anyone can give me some advice at a good order to upgrade! (ex. Helm > then weapon > then oh etc)

thanks everyone!
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Dakota-1332/

Edit:
currently i run on mp4 doing fine.
im fine spending some gold on items.. just want to know what order to upgrade
im looking to farm some high MP quickly.. key and uber farming as well


This post was edited by JeDaH on Jan 16 2013 05:15pm
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Jan 16 2013 05:16pm
Quote (JeDaH @ Jan 16 2013 06:08pm)
Wow! amazing thread with great info! Thanks everyone! :)

I'm returning to the game and worry my barb is a bit outdated though :(
I'm still repping a Mighty Weapon/Dagger combo and IK Helm...

I notice the new things to do are Echofury/Mempo/Ice climbers...etc

Im just curious if anyone can give me some advice at a good order to upgrade! (ex. Helm > then weapon > then oh etc)

thanks everyone!
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Dakota-1332/


your budget, lots to do

IK belt first for life steal
main hand change to axe or mace with chd / sock
ias from couple gears
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Jan 16 2013 05:28pm
Quote (lansi @ Jan 16 2013 03:16pm)
your budget, lots to do

IK belt first for life steal
main hand change to axe or mace with chd / sock
ias from couple gears


thanks for the info! i'll take any advice I can get..
and dont worry about budget :)
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Jan 16 2013 05:35pm
Quote (JeDaH @ Jan 16 2013 06:28pm)
thanks for the info! i'll take any advice I can get..
and dont worry about budget :)


if you want do Echofury/Mempo/Ice climbers combo
1 - ik belt with 180 str+ / vit / xxx
2 - ik armor
3 - main hand mace with chd / sock / ( str )
4 - off hand dagger with 100+str / 100 + vit / sock / chd / or EF ( if you dunt mind that fear )
5 - rings after you change your off hand you can get them with or without ias
6- amy same as ring
7 - lacuni with str / 9ias / cc / ( vit )
8 - inna pant ( if you go for Echofury/Mempo/Ice climbers combo )
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Jan 16 2013 05:38pm
Quote (lansi @ Jan 16 2013 04:35pm)
if you want do Echofury/Mempo/Ice climbers combo
1 - ik belt  with 180 str+ / vit / xxx
2 - ik armor
3 - main hand mace with chd / sock / ( str )
4 - off hand dagger with 100+str / 100 + vit / sock / chd /  or EF ( if you dunt mind that fear )
5 - rings after you change your off hand you can get them with or without ias
6- amy same as ring
7 - lacuni with str / 9ias / cc / ( vit )
8 - inna pant ( if you go for Echofury/Mempo/Ice climbers combo )


actually, if ur not using EF, then axe+dagger is best combo to hit 2.2/2.5

but ideally u want EF offhand (.23 minimum) and mace MH with a .23 EF you can use 3*9ias items, one 8 ias items

with .24 u can use 2*8's, 2*9's, and .25 3*8's. 1*9

This post was edited by Tboner on Jan 16 2013 05:39pm
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Jan 16 2013 05:42pm
Quote (Tboner @ Jan 16 2013 06:38pm)
actually, if ur not using EF, then axe+dagger is best combo to hit 2.2/2.5

but ideally u want EF offhand (.23 minimum) and mace MH with a .23 EF you can use 3*9ias items, one 8 ias items

with .24 u can use 2*8's, 2*9's, and .25 3*8's. 1*9


true
forgot add main hand option to there since i already said mace or axe

im still looking for a mace with high chd / str
damn hard to find one
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Jan 16 2013 06:00pm
Quote (WannaB3 @ Jan 16 2013 06:51pm)
get some movespeed... innas pants with 100+ vita if low budget or str+vita if u are rich enough. and lacuini prowlers.
get an amu with avrg dmg and more str. (keep the cc and cd ofc)
change the cd from your ring with some str imo.


No, most of this isn't good advice, given what his problems are -- his EHP is too low to be doing the mp his dps dictates he should be doing. If he got inna's pants and lacunis, he would lose 356 vit and 126 AR from his current rare pants/bracers with only some of that replaced by inna's/lacunis unless he spends a fuckton of gold. He does need movespeed, but that can come later, he needs some other pieces to free up his flexibility.

Quote (badkickass @ Jan 16 2013 06:17pm)
Not sure what to update next :/
I would like to boost my dps but than my vita will go down to maybe 22k life...
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Suchtkr%C3%BCppel-2436/hero/4406888


You are currently handcuffed to several pieces because they have vit/AR while you lack those stats in pieces that normally should have tons of it. You have lots of high end pieces like Ice Climbers, IK Chest, WH, but the problem with getting low end versions of those items is they lack vit and AR, which causes those same pieces to be very expensive.

- You need a better IK Chest. Look for 130 str/200 vit or better. It will cost you a good chunk of gold, not gonna lie.

- Witching Hour gives barbs a lot of problems.
-- The first problem is when you switch from a mid tier IK Belt 180 str/80 vit (25m) to a low tier witching hour like yours (same price range), you lose a ton of ehp: 80 vit, 70-80AR. You also lose 3%LS, which if you had, you could swap out bloodthirst for a more defensive passive, like tough as nails, which is worth 1000-1500 armor, or supersititon if your AR is lower, but armor is decent.
-- The second problem (for most barbs, not you) is in order to retain the 2pc IK bonus, you need IK gloves, the problem there being good IK gloves are fucking expensive. Good rare gloves like 140 str, 80 vit, 9 cc, 40 chd or 140 str, 70 AR, 9 cc, 8 ias are roughly 25m. Those same stats on IK gloves are 250m.
-- The way around these problems is gold. If you're going to upgrade to witching hour, make sure it's a good one, either 150str/80+vit or 150str/60+AR or all three stats if you're rich enough. At the same time, plan out your IK gloves purchase simultaneously and make sure you don't lose dps or ehp while swapping out rare gloves + IK belt to IK gloves + WH or else the dps gain from WH's 9/50 will basically be a wash. It's a headache, which is why I believe WH is a high end upgrade. IK Belt does a very good job well into mid-upper tiers.

So my advice to you is to get the IK Chest upgrade first. Trade your WH for an IK belt like I mentioned above. Once you have those down, you can think about swapping your pants for inna's and your bracers for crit lacunis (get 9% ias on both). You should also consider swapping your IK gloves for rares with str, AR or vit, and 8-10cc/9ias. That would give you 9+9+9+6 = 33% ias which gives you the 2.50/2.86 breakpoints on your weapons. Somewhere in there, you can swap our war cry for overpower-killing spree. It's a huge dps boost. This isn't cheap, but 170k+ unbuffed dps that isn't a glass cannon like yours isn't cheap.
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Jan 16 2013 08:34pm
hello i need some quick advice.. i have a barb WW; about 320k dmg with battle cry (into the fray)

i am about to buy an IK belt and i dont know which is better: frenzy or bash.

personally i like them both.. frenzy has nice attack speed and bash has nice damage..

i see most of the top DPS barbs on diabloprogress use bash w/ instigation

does bash > frenzy when it comes to fury for keeping WOTB up!?!?! any advice appreciated.. thanks

=)

This post was edited by Ras-Necro on Jan 16 2013 08:35pm
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Jan 16 2013 08:47pm
Quote (Ras-Necro @ Jan 16 2013 07:34pm)
hello i need some quick advice.. i have a barb WW; about 320k dmg with battle cry (into the fray)

i am about to buy an IK belt and i dont know which is better: frenzy or bash.

personally i like them both.. frenzy has nice attack speed and bash has nice damage..

i see most of the top DPS barbs on diabloprogress use bash w/ instigation

does bash > frenzy when it comes to fury for keeping WOTB up!?!?!  any advice appreciated.. thanks 

=)


its pretty obvious that bash gives more fury if u wuld either just test it ingame or look at the tool tip..

but frenzy has more damage output so i prefer frenzy
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Jan 16 2013 10:16pm
Made some changes... any recommended upgrades ?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Hwarang-1967/hero/8311253
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