1. You are currently hitting 2.22/2.50 breakpoints. You only need 31% to hit those bps, so you're actually "wasting" a bit of ias. To hit 2.50/2.86, you would need 53% ias.

2. Weapons Master is based off of your MH weapon. This is why mace/axe are the most desirable MH.

3. Mace/EF, Axe (w/8%+ ias)/EF, EF/Sword, EF/Dagger (w/11% ias) are all viable combos. Some combos are more expensive, some people hate EF in MH due to fear procs off nados. Mace/EF is generally the easiest to get a pretty good setup because maces have naturally high avg dmg and you can save money getting a lower dps EF with either LS/os or chd/os.

4. It's not as necessary since you will only proc them off of 50% of your ww ticks (at 13% proc coefficient * Your EF's proc rate). If you have an 11% EF, it would only proc only .5 x .13 x .11 = 0.7% of your ww ticks. imo, unless you have a baller soj (like 5/27/5%ww or better), it's probably more beneficial to wear a good rare ring.

5. IAS on a weapon is only needed to sync it properly with an EF. Axes are best with at least 8% ias since it will be 1.40+ speed, which syncs perfectly with EF. To hit 2.86 bp on mace/EF, you need ias on 7 pieces of gear, at least 3 of which must trifecta-capable pieces, which means if you're also maxing out the cc/chd/str props, it will get unbearably expensive. 2.50 is good enough and reachable with 4 pieces, none of which need to be in trifecta capable slots (I use mempo, witching hour, inna's pants, lacunis), which means I can dedicate my trifecta slots to maxing cc/chd/str/avg dmg (VERY important to dps)/other(vit/AR) and not break the bank. You definitely want to aim for +.23 aps or better on your EF because from .23-.25, the ratio is 1% ias per .01, but it jumps 2% ias at .22 due to rounding (i.e. to hit 2.50 with mace/EF, you need 33% w/.25, 34% w/.24, 35% w/.23, but 37% w/.22 and 38% w/.21). Note also, that 37% would require ias on 5 pieces of gear, and even 35% requires 3 of 4 perfect 9% ias rolls. If you already have 2 good 8% pieces, you might have to look for a .24 EF.

This post was edited by fentr on Jan 15 2013 02:40pm

Hey fentr - will reply in full in a bit (thanks for your help), but is this spreadsheet wrong? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At5MRFNSRCTndE56RThFNE1DS0ZaQVJtY1lQOGtLNmc#gid=64

Well first, you're not taking advantage of the 2-pc IK set bonus, which is a mistake except maybe at the highest levels of gear, or unless you are only planning on doing mp0 for xp/hr. Then, you're fine, but if you're only doing mp0, no need to spend any more money on gear at all, except to get a leoric's and hellfire.

Second, you're at 50% ias, which is in no man's land, smack in between two breakpoints. You are well over the 2.5/2.86 bp (35% for you) and the extra ias could be turned into chd for more effective DPS. Any extra ias over a bp only increases your dps from bash/frenzy, which is like 1% of a ww/nado barb's total damage. You are also not nearing max CC% on your gloves and ammy, which is the most important stat for ww barbs, and you don't have average dmg on your ring or ammy, which is an underrated and enormous source of dps. You also shouldn't rely on vit from mempo because ideally, you will upgrade to a cc mempo which has 0 vit.

You have quite a few options to optimize your setup since you have so many ias pieces. Here are three possibilities, assuming you don't mess with your weapons:

1. Get IK Gloves with 170+str/70+vit/5%+ias (60m+). Then, change your ring to avg dmg/str/cc/chd. Search for 30/60/4.5/35 and browse around; plenty of good options (under 40m). With this, you would still be over 2.5 bp with 39% ias, and you would gain 30+ avg dmg, 3-5.5% CC and 35-50% CHD for 100m.

2. Get a good IK Belt, 180+str/80+vit/3%LS (25m+), which would give you 130+AR, 80+vit, and 3% LS, which would allow you to swap bloodthirst for tough as nails (1.3k+ armor) or brawler (dps boost). With all of that extra AR, you could change your gloves to str/vit/9%ias/9%+CC rares (30m+), which would get you to 35% ias and allow you to swap your ring to the same one mentioned above (under 40m). So you would lose the 41% CHD from your witching hour, but gain 30+ avg dmg, 3-5.5% CC, 35-50% CHD, 80 AR for ~100m. You would also gain flexibility to swap out bloodthirst and possibly the flexibility to swap your amulet to one with 8+CC/80+CHD.

3. If you insist on keeping Witching Hour, then get a better one. 150+ str/50+ AR and 9% ias are a must due to your EF. This will run you 200m+. Then, you can swap to 170+str/30+chd IK gloves, which are cheap with just those stats, but exponentially expensive if you want to tack on AR or vit (5-200m). Then, you can swap out your ring for the same as above (under 40m). You will gain 30+ avg dmg, 60+AR, 3-5.5%CC, 65-80% CHD for 250-500m. This option is expensive and slightly inflexible unless you get super expensive str/chd/AR IK gloves (you are also currently handcuffed to the AR from your ammy).

Any more than that and you should probably pay me to re-build your character. ;p



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That spreadsheet looks fine, but it's pretty easy to calculate yourself, especially with all of the information available on the OP of this topic.

This post was edited by fentr on Jan 15 2013 03:34pm

Hi guys I want to spam this a bit aswell.. here is my freshly made barb for uber/keyhunt : http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/lifo-2693/hero/24428836

I think im on 2.0x aps without wrath, with wrath dno, can anyone help me out a little with what breakpoint i should get? should i remove some ias and add cd instead (amu) or get more ias from rings?

is 1 piece of life steal + 850 LOH enough for mp 5 ubers or should i use my other mainhand (910 dps 200 str 5x CD 2.X LS)? Im at 440k tDPS according to d3up.com so its not that monster..

I feel my protection is good enough, hard to upgrade more @ 6,6k armor / 840 res and hp looks low but i think its enough above 40k as long as i keep good protection and dont lose wrath

Suggestions?

note: there is not a single EF with lifesteal+socket or lifesteal + CD in EUHC, forget about what exists in SC, must be within reason ^^

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Launchd-1786/hero/836159

I'm still so confused as to what I upgrade next? I'm playing on a pretty tight budget right now. I have about 5-10mil to spend.

Upgrade your boots or gloves. You can buy a piece of IK for the melee reduction since you arent that well geared, or you can spend it all on one piece like a pair of ice climbers.

Hi guys I want to ask an advice: What I must upgrade next?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Dodger-2506/hero/21171050
with this I can farm MP2 easy, but i want to move forward ;-)

My plan is to build uber WW barb (some ideas like in this guide http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Dodger-2506/hero/21171050 but more powerful ).
Budget is about 100kk ?

Can you help with some advice? Maybe i need to change something in skills ?

Thanks a lot!

This post was edited by Gangrr on Jan 16 2013 01:03am

What do you think will happen with the new 1.07 patch?

this will ofcourse has to be tested but what i do think will happen is this; ww barbs will get ruby marquise in mainhand and emerald marquise in offhand, even if we drop in paperdoll dps the added dmg on rltw tornados will increase by a nice flat raw dmg boost that is affected by crit chance and crit dmg.

Goodmorning !

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/WannaB3-2460/hero/22150515

i am in a step that all upgrades are a bit expencive.. anyway i need some opinions where to aim to upgrade my dps mostly.
my life is 37k and my rez 550@ unbuffed. for ubbers i change gem on helm and hellfire ring and get little more life..
i am farming mp4/5 atm alka route usualy..
what u think i should change to make some serius upgrades on my dps?
200-300m budget.

Tnx

no, no1 will use rubies in weapons. e/ nvm i just saw they made it like 150-300 dmg in weapons? then yea probably put one in ur mainhand.. wow thats pretty OP rofl

and im highly considering selling my barb off, they just cant keep up in pvp

This post was edited by Tboner on Jan 16 2013 04:03am