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May 3 2013 11:10am
Quote (jinshin85 @ May 3 2013 12:54pm)
First of all, I never recommend Echoing Fury to any monks due to the Fear proc messing up the party games. It's just not efficient in full party mp10 games. Nobody likes playing in a party game with a monk using EF because half the time, everyone will be chasing the hell out of elites.

Second, like I mentioned in the original post, these builds will likely to work only with nicely geared monks who have attack speed on at least 5 slots (mempo/2rings/wh/inna pants). That's good enough for these build to work completely fine.

For gobs, if you are having trouble killing him, bump down a mp because you don't have enough dmg.

And yes, I'm at 2.352/2.352 with sword/wkl and 2.52./2352 with dagger/wkl. And it's not coincidental that I have +2.4aps average. I calculated all this before I upgraded my gears to hit those numbers.

I hate EF Fear, period. It brings down the Effective DPS per run by A LOT. And the next patch is all about party games, so I want monks to understand that using a EF in a mp10 party game is not a good idea.

If you like it, you can use it. I won't try to convince you to not use it.


so, yeah, your going to need a dagger.

imat at 2.38 with 9% mempo, 6% on ammy, 5% gloves, 9% wh, 9% innas, 9% nats ring and 8% unity. i would higly reccomend more then 5 slots with 9%.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on May 3 2013 11:13am
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May 3 2013 11:16am
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so, yeah, your going to need a dagger.


Wow. I should have just stopped answering to your non sense issues that you were having.

No, you don't need a dagger to do this. Are you really that stupid to not get this? You don't have to over think everything dude.

0.1 aps is not going to decide the build's viability.

I was using all these build with zero problems with my sword/wkl set up and I'm sure everyone else in this topic won't have problem. All my friends with worse gears than you are doing great with this build.

I've never ever had someone asking me it's hard to micro blazing fist.

You are the only person that's having an issue with this because you have to pay "more" attention when you play. Are you serious????

Again, this is YOUR problem.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on May 3 2013 11:18am
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May 3 2013 11:20am
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Wow. I should have just stopped answering to your non sense issues that you were having.

No, you don't need a dagger to do this. Are you really that stupid to not get this? You don't have to over think everything dude.

0.1 aps is not going to decide the build's viability.

I was using all these build with zero problems with my sword/wkl set up and I'm sure everyone else in this topic won't have problem. All my friends with worse gears than you are doing great with this build.

I've never ever had someone asking me it's hard to micro blazing fist.

You are the only person that's having an issue with this because you have to pay "more" attention when you play.

Again, this is YOUR problem.


were past the whole im lazy, where talking about attack speed and teleport speed vs goblins as well as constantly loosing track of the main e in a pack of illusionists nearly everytime you use blazinf fists.

maybe your friends just dont know the joy of a relaxing day of farming mr.GOGOGOGOGOG

and news flash, unless your an elitist unwilling to ever play with any one who uses ef or witch doctors with horrify, your going to have to deal with fear.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on May 3 2013 11:22am
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May 3 2013 11:27am
OK ... let's not get off topic here.

Attack speed
cc, cd
Blazing fist
FoT
EF
DR
Bell
Palm
WKL
Sword
Blind
BoH

I mix and match them all depending on what I wanna accomplish.
Everyone's play style is different.
Just use whatever works.

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May 3 2013 11:28am
EDIT: Okay. I'll drop it.

Yeah, it's good to have several different weapons to mix and match for different builds.

That's the fun part of it I guess.

What I have in my inventory in terms of weapons:

Rare dagger: cd/dex/ls/socket (Emerald or Ruby)
Rare spear: cd/ls/socket (Ruby)
CD WKL: cd/socket (Emerald)
LS WKL: ls/socket (Emerald)
CD EF: cd/socket (Emerald)
LS EF: ls/socket (Emerald)
LS Skorn: (Ruby)

A LITTLE TIP:
When you palm a elite and he makes illusions, the real one will have the PALM on his head. :D


This post was edited by jinshin85 on May 3 2013 11:33am
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May 3 2013 12:47pm
why way of 100fists rather than deadly reach foresight for combo strike?

the 30 seconds of + foresight damage seems better to me than that in/out changing of wayof100fists
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May 3 2013 12:47pm
Jin I Got an On topic Q for ya, I am Farming Mp8 or 9 Ez mode, But when I Hit mp10 Its a massive breaking point, I am happy with my clearing speed (for now) But Maniac's big plauge/ desecrator packs just rip me apart (yes i have 6% ls) , yes i can run around them and re position for the most part this works fine. but when i get two nasty packs or etc i NEED serenity. Also VS freeze i feel i am losing so much Killing time being frozen, How do you deal with Status effects in these builds, do you not need a Freeze/ Night mare/ jailer etc breaker spell?


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Nearin-1366/hero/3164914

Heres a link to my profile, I also switch in and out a SoJ with 11% sw 30% bve and some higher dps lower res shoulder for various difficulties etc.

My Skill question: What should i replace serenity with, and how will i be able to afford that.

My gear question: I am inclined to get High Vit inna pants but that means losing 60 res, Nat boots i will loose res in moving to higher dex/vit boots and Nat ring i will lose EHP moving to CC

Where can I make up all this lost res? and is it worth it too lose? I'm struggling to decided which direction is best to up my gear. Other than of course farming for crafts.
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May 3 2013 12:58pm
Quote (ifthirdiablo @ May 3 2013 11:47am)
why way of 100fists rather than deadly reach foresight for combo strike?

the 30 seconds of + foresight damage seems better to me than that in/out changing of wayof100fists


Quote (Nearin @ May 3 2013 11:47am)
Jin I Got an On topic Q for ya, I am Farming Mp8 or 9 Ez mode, But when I Hit mp10 Its a massive breaking point, I am happy with my clearing speed (for now) But Maniac's big plauge/ desecrator packs just rip me apart (yes i have 6% ls) , yes i can run around them and re position for the most part this works fine. but when i get two nasty packs or etc i NEED serenity. Also VS freeze i feel i am losing so much Killing time being frozen, How do you deal with Status effects in these builds, do you not need a Freeze/ Night mare/ jailer etc breaker spell?


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Nearin-1366/hero/3164914

Heres a link to my profile, I also switch in and out a SoJ with 11% sw 30% bve and some higher dps lower res shoulder for various difficulties etc.

My Skill question: What should i replace serenity with, and how will i be able to afford that.

My gear question: I am inclined to get High Vit inna pants but that means losing 60 res, Nat boots i will loose res in moving to higher dex/vit boots and Nat ring i will lose EHP moving to CC

Where can I make up all this lost res? and is it worth it too lose? I'm struggling to decided which direction is best to up my gear. Other than of course farming for crafts.


The main reason why I prefer BF over Foresight is the 15% extra movement speed. High end monks usually drop Serenity for more offensive active skill, and we are pretty much geared enough to facetank everything in the game. The only thing that can be annoying is Frozen/Plague/RD/Vortex type of nasty cc effect affixed elites.

I find the 39% movement speed to be extremely valuable against these type of elites. Kite out quickly when the orbs about to blow and tclap back in to engage again. This I like a lot about it.

Another way to deal with these cc effect nasty elites are Pacifism passive which make us GOD against these. It's like I want to be frozen. haha But I like BF more since it gives us dmg as well as ms.

But it's not mandatory for sure. It can be swapped with DR Foresight if someone likes to focus on tclapping around in the fights. :)

@Nearing: Do you usually use that HF ring for high mp games too? And what's your budget? Need those answers before I get you the gear advice! :D

But from what I can see from your profile, you can pick up +100 res from your bracer since it doesn't have any all res or your res on it. Then you can get +50 vital on new boots/+170 vital on pants. Maybe even more vital on your chest. It's better to lose about 30 dex on the chest to get +40-50more vital. About same price but better overall.

And about the Serenity, you can choose either Cyclone Strike/Deadly Reach Foresight/Breathe of Heaven Wraith.

CS : You can pull out the mobs out of the plague (and good for party)
DR : You can hit the elites from the outside of the plague (and dmg boost)
BoH : Extra tankiness with heal (and dmg boost)

But it seems like you are lacking attack speed. The minimum for monks I would say is 2.1aps depending on the set up but yeah, 1 on HF slot + 1 on Glove should fix the problem.

High aps helps a lot for tele-ing in and out of the fights.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on May 3 2013 01:06pm
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May 3 2013 01:09pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ May 3 2013 02:58pm)
The main reason why I prefer BF over Foresight is the 15% extra movement speed. High end monks usually drop Serenity for more offensive active skill, and we are pretty much geared enough to facetank everything in the game. The only thing that can be annoying is Frozen/Plague/RD/Vortex type of nasty cc effect affixed elites.

I find the 39% movement speed to be extremely valuable against these type of elites. Kite out quickly when the orbs about to blow and tclap back in to engage again. This I like a lot about it.

Another way to deal with these cc effect nasty elites are Pacifism passive which make us GOD against these. It's like I want to be frozen. haha But I like BF more since it gives us dmg as well as ms.

But it's not mandatory for sure. It can be swapped with DR Foresight if someone likes to focus on tclapping around in the fights. :)

@Nearing: Do you usually use that HF ring for high mp games too? And what's your budget? Need those answers before I get you the gear advice! :D

But from what I can see from your profile, you can pick up +100 res from your bracer since it doesn't have any all res or your res on it. Then you can get +50 vital on new boots/+170 vital on pants. Maybe even more vital on your chest. It's better to lose about 30 dex on the chest to get +40-50more vital. About same price but better overall.


Pacifism for me means dropping OWE or Seize Based on my Low AR count it will probabl have to be Seize, Is this still going to be effective or only really applicable to All res monks?

No higher MP I use the SOJ But I have been recommended to seek a unity for reduced elite for mp10 games.

Budget 1-1.5B

Bracers I am Working on that roll , tryin got avoid the purchase as i know i can craft it.

thanks again! and you can PM me back or add me if you want to keep your thread clean!


e/ Just saw the Add'ed IAS advice as well, Ya, once again pulling for crafted on the glove front.


This post was edited by Nearin on May 3 2013 01:12pm
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May 3 2013 01:51pm
Dat clown lol.
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