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Oct 29 2012 11:29am
Quote (Lucky17 @ 29 Oct 2012 12:08)
TY for advice. I have problem too with searching items.

I Know, the important is dex. But what alse?

What is better
1. Dex, Atk Speed?
2. Dex, Vit ?
3. Dex, crit dmg?

When i`m searching item with 200+ dex and vit i can`t find other important stat.

How can i deal that?


What is better for you will depend on your pre-existing setup.
If you are below 1.4 attacks per sec I would suggest getting ias along with it.
You need decent aps to kite properly.
Vit is a luxury imo when it comes to a dh weapon.
My choice would be dex/crit damage but I enjoy playing a more fragile character than most. ^^
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Oct 29 2012 11:49am
hi i'm hoping you could give me some advice what i should buy next and what slots to replace on my dh.
before the big 1.03 nerf i quited the game, but i've started playing again some days ago.
so i have much to learn from what i missed in the last months...
my budget is about 9millions (all i got left after i sold the gold ^^), but i'm willing to farm or ah flip items to get money again.
maybe you could give me some tips about goldfarming too ;)

http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Humanhead-2792/hero/5186079
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Oct 29 2012 12:22pm
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What is better for you will depend on your pre-existing setup.
If you are below 1.4 attacks per sec I would suggest getting ias along with it.
You need decent aps to kite properly.
Vit is a luxury imo when it comes to a dh weapon.
My choice would be dex/crit damage but I enjoy playing a more fragile character than most. ^^

Thx for advice but i`m waiting for Darksoul opinion



TY for advice. I have problem too with searching items.

I Know, the important is dex. But what alse?

What is better
1. Dex, Atk Speed?
2. Dex, Vit ?
3. Dex, crit dmg?

When i`m searching item with 200+ dex and vit i can`t find other important stat.

How can i deal that?
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Oct 29 2012 02:55pm
I may be looking for a total DH build from you. I quit this game a few months ago and came back for 1.05. My DH is not good by any means, everything im using was either bought very cheaply or found over the last week. A few pieces left over from 1.03 i think.. Heck im still using the same skill setup i was using from 1.03.
Anyway I have about 100m to spend, obviously id probably keep the innas n lacuna, what kind of DH/stats can I expect for that price? Ive been deciding between rebuilding this DH or just building a ww barb..
*Unless you think i can spend less and actually upgrade this build to a good DH.
Thanks for your help.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Capone-1529/hero/18437531

This post was edited by blass12 on Oct 29 2012 03:00pm
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Oct 29 2012 04:26pm
Quote (Lucky17 @ Oct 29 2012 08:22am)
Thx for advice but i`m waiting for Darksoul opinion



TY for advice. I have problem too with searching items.

I Know, the important is dex. But what alse?

What is better
1. Dex, Atk Speed?
2. Dex, Vit ?
3. Dex, crit dmg?

When i`m searching item with 200+ dex and vit i can`t find other important stat.

How can i deal that?


Mobile again but balance is the key. You want to hit 2.0 attacks per second ideally but everything is multiplied off your weapons base speed. If you use a slow weapon it takes more attack speed to get there, which is why I rock rev bows most of the time.

If you are using a bow stack minimal attack speed but mainly crit chance and crit damage along with dex and vit wherever you can get it. Res is nice but costs a fortune on many slots, the cheapest places to get it are shoulders, chest, pants, boots, and Bracers. 250-400 all Res is plenty if you have decent armor, stacking vit/%life is better at that point cost wise since there are no diminishing returns on it.

If you have a manticore or slow high crit damage weapon look for attack speed and crit chance. don't build with 1 handers unless you have TONS of cash as it takes top tier ones to produce good damage and since everything is based off base weapon speed and damage you will get tons of attacks per second but damage bonuses will net you much smaller gains.
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Oct 29 2012 06:07pm
Quote (Arkanian @ Oct 29 2012 01:36pm)
I don't know what you're smoking, but you aren't melting mp 7-10 ubers at 170k dps. Sry brah.


You guys and your sheet dps. Just because someone is taller doesn't mean they can jump higher. You build with attack speed on an xbow, on a rev bow base you can replace the attack speed with average damage to buff your pure physical damage instead which results in some very consistent and high pure damage. Take my build for an example. I run mark of death mortal enemy for 12% bonus damage and 3 hatred per hit on the target. I have 6+ hatred regen with no bat due to windforce/dml. I have 3 sentries up that have their damage based off of weapon attack speed and base physical damage (guess what weapon has the best of those both) doing 50-100k each hit 2.2 times per second x3. My Thunderball crits for 220-380k ish and I alternate throwing scatter mines that can crit up to 730k each x6 between the detonations. Because I shoot so fast and didn't sacrifice any survivability to compensate for a xbow's slow attack speed I can keep this pattern and perma gloom up 100% of the time.

So lets take the low end of things into consideration for effective dps.

I can face tank so I don't need to run around and lose dps time. I run 50% base crit so lets assume thats accurate. Here are some per second numbers.

330,000 dps from 3x sentries with 60 second durations +15% damage reduction for me and the group
330,000 dps from main attack assuming 50% crits (assume I only get 2 off not 2.2 to leave time to press gloom and spike traps twice this generates 6 hatred per shot)
1,650,000 dps from 6 spike traps assuming 3 crit 3 don't (I crit much more often than I don't but w/e this also produced 18 hatred each time reducing the cost to 42)

The effective dps of my build at minimum is around 2.3 million. I would actually go into more detail but you are a waste of my time.

This was a response to someone spamming a paid thread and belongs here in strategy and discussion. I won't be going into what I do anymore, feel free to post up I will do my best to help out.

This post was edited by D4rk50ul on Oct 29 2012 06:09pm
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Oct 29 2012 06:17pm
Hey guy ^^ nice to see someone helpin out the community huh?

so basically looking for a lawn mower/ speed demon lol fast farming, not super high MP levels, 1-5 would be enough

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/RaYRaY-1959/hero/2877552

Basically through this together from my monk to have some fun with a DH.

My thoughts of gear upgrade:
Nats helm with the basics dex/vit/cc/soc to complement the boots/ring
Innas Armor? to complement the pants?
Witching Hour belt?
and ofc Dead mans's Quiver, but b4 that, I need to find out what skills I would want on it.

Your thoughts buddy? thx
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Oct 29 2012 06:31pm
Quote (RaWBOoGiE @ Oct 29 2012 02:17pm)
Hey guy ^^ nice to see someone helpin out the community huh?

so basically looking for a lawn mower/ speed demon lol fast farming, not super high MP levels, 1-5 would be enough

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/RaYRaY-1959/hero/2877552

Basically through this together from my monk to have some fun with a DH.

My thoughts of gear upgrade:
Nats helm with the basics dex/vit/cc/soc to complement the boots/ring
Innas Armor? to complement the pants?
Witching Hour belt?
and ofc Dead mans's Quiver, but b4 that, I need to find out what skills I would want on it.

Your thoughts buddy? thx


Well here is some common things to keep in mind when gearing a DH. Certain things you need to have that can only be gotten on certain slots.

Max Discipline mainly comes from your cloak and quiver.
Move speed from Pants/Boots/Bracers
Life% from Shoulders/Belt/Jewelry/Quiver/Helm/Cloak
Crit/ASI/CD from Gloves/Helm/Jewelry/Quiver/Bracers

That being said Inna's belt with 8% elemental and around 100 dex puts out more base damage than a WH does for Rev bow based builds and lets you get a Nat's embrace that can roll Max Discipline and comes with base Life%.
Dead mans are best with double rolled dex/vit most of the time and the bonus damage is very important so choosing your primary before hand is important, hungering arrow is a very safe bet.
Helms with Sockets are VERY important, Crit/Res/Life% on them is the most desirable mods and Nat's/Mempo/Andy's are all great.
Nat's ring or boots are the best place to get the set bonus along with the cloak.

Ideal stats for rev bows and 1 handers are as follows after you reach 2.0 attacks per second:

Average Damage
Dex
Vit
Allres
Crit Damage
Crit Chance

For Crossbows you need more ASI so this is more common:

Dex
Vit
Allres
Attack Speed
Crit Damage
Crit Chance
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Oct 29 2012 06:44pm
Hello, would like to know what you think about my DH, and how I could improve it further

I've been thinking of getting more @ & hp, and damage as well, I just dont know where to get it the easiest way

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/orvar-2390/LePikachu/9805914

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Orvar-2390/hero/9805914

One item is wrong, and its the legs, I changed them to innas with 164 dex 9ias instead :]
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Oct 29 2012 06:57pm
Quote (Orvar @ Oct 29 2012 02:44pm)
Hello, would like to know what you think about my DH, and how I could improve it further

I've been thinking of getting more @ & hp, and damage as well, I just dont know where to get it the easiest way

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/orvar-2390/LePikachu/9805914

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Orvar-2390/hero/9805914

One item is wrong, and its the legs, I changed them to innas with 164 dex 9ias instead :]


You are reaching one of those points where upgrades become expensive. Gloves/Bracers/Belt are ideal. I would try for Inna's Belt with some All res to keep your dex, give you 8% elemental damage bonus, more armor/resistances (ehp), and a crit %. Probably your best upgrade followed by some new gloves and then bracers. When buying bracers keep in mind 6 crit isn't always the best value if you can find nice dex/vit/allres/crit ones with higher combined stats, and avoid stacked res on them as you will pay double because monks tend to bid high on them.

If you go Inna's belt with res you will need to make it up with some Vitality on another piece, jewelry/bracers are usually easy spots.

This post was edited by D4rk50ul on Oct 29 2012 06:59pm
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