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Oct 4 2012 05:55am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F53T2bRRIeA&feature=plcp ----> Look at 8 mins onwards .... your screen is red all the time .... You are top 10 barb with shield, and you are getting your ass handed to you by a1 mobs, you cant keep your hp up whilst whirling through lots of mobs, you need ignore pain at a point, you are constantly forced to run and kite on this barb ... wtf? its hilarious and horrible ... get rid of the shield, get a weapon with 150+ cd, life leech, get more ias / crit, slot bloodthirst instead of animosity, and you will see the difference.

Also, you only killed the purple terror demon with ignore pain and a monk to take the heat off you, I can only imagine what a fiasco it wouldve been. Ignore pain is nice, but its on only 20 to 23% of the time, the rest of the time you're worse off cuz you have no warcry.

Dual wield barbs videos that do far better with no shield

http://www.twitch.tv/buleh/b/333029317
http://www.twitch.tv/moldran/b/333386631


That was a test, first time ever on PTR, I run A3 full life as much as I want not even using Ignore Pain tbh.
Once again, nobody forces you liking this build, if you feel like Moldran's is better stick to that, like I said everyone has to experience his own style and build, I am offering an alternative.
I guess everyone understood your opinion already.
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Oct 4 2012 06:06am
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That was a test, first time ever on PTR, I run A3 full life as much as I want not even using Ignore Pain tbh.


I hope so :/

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Once again, nobody forces you liking this build, if you feel like Moldran's is better stick to that, like I said everyone has to experience his own style and build, I am offering an alternative.


Yeah no one forced me to like it but I can comment on it ... if you offer an alternative with something you call a top 10 barb then at least make it look good, in your video there is just a succubus battle ... big deal. Try some nasty golgor, phasebeast, tremor or blood clan spear pack with that barb. All your vids on YT you either teaming or getting your ass handed to you and kiting when you soloing. I just think it is really bad for MP10, again nothing against you per se. If I had your barb I would farm MP6-8 probably, where I dont have to kite / use ignore pain / potions cuz I can handle the incoming damage. (Well actually if I had your barb and gold I would make it MP10 soloable, but anyway)

In short, even looking at your profile .... your dps is too low to make proper use of shield, its like 60-70k unbuffed, not to mention the block at 30% on MP10 is usless, they hit like trains, and your leech is average at that level of dps, also your armor and AR, even with a shield are still average.

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Oct 4 2012 06:09am
i think the topic titles didnt help... not sure why you needed to put top 10 barb etc.

should have used a title like 'Awesome shield barb build'

claim to be top or the best and you are setting yourself up to be flamed...
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Oct 4 2012 06:13am
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i think the topic titles didnt help... not sure why you needed to put top 10 barb etc.

should have used a title like 'Awesome shield barb build'

claim to be top or the best and you are setting yourself up to be flamed...


To get attention into the topic :)
I love discussing, as long as the discussions are constructive. Beside markilbaldacchino saying that I suck and so on, I am actually enjoying the discussion itself.
For this reason, I am gonna find the packs he spoke about MP10 and try to upload a video about that as soon as possible :)
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Oct 4 2012 06:17am
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To get attention into the topic :)
I love discussing, as long as the discussions are constructive. Beside markilbaldacchino saying that I suck and so on, I am actually enjoying the discussion itself.
For this reason, I am gonna find the packs he spoke about MP10 and try to upload a video about that as soon as possible :)



I never said you suck. I didnt attack you about your accent etc. like other ppl ... I just said I think you can do far far better with this barb than choosing animosity, ignore pain, going shield with relatively low dps for a barb who can get any gear. At least looking at your profile you did slot bloodthirst and war cry now.

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Oct 4 2012 06:30am
Quote (markilbaldacchino @ Oct 4 2012 12:17pm)
I never said you suck. I didnt attack you about your accent etc. like other ppl ... I just said I think you can do far far better with this barb than choosing animosity, ignore pain, going shield with relatively low dps for a barb who can get any gear. At least looking at your profile you did slot bloodthirst and war cry now.


yeah but people do things different ways mate, thats how other cookie cutter builds were made in the past. I dont think there is anything wrong with using a shield but then again i play DH so what do i know :)

If everyone just followed the same dual wield build then whats the point, blizzard mayaswell just make it so all barbs are the same!

you both have valid points but each to their own...

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Oct 4 2012 07:42am
Quote (markilbaldacchino @ 4 Oct 2012 14:17)
I never said you suck. I didnt attack you about your accent etc. like other ppl ... I just said I think you can do far far better with this barb than choosing animosity, ignore pain, going shield with relatively low dps for a barb who can get any gear. At least looking at your profile you did slot bloodthirst and war cry now.


Video is rendering, I am gonna upload it later tho as I am doing some stuff and won't lag right now.
I believe it should be up at 8 PM CET more or less :)

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Oct 4 2012 09:23am
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Video is rendering, I am gonna upload it later tho as I am doing some stuff and won't lag right now.
I believe it should be up at 8 PM CET more or less :)



Thats cool, I want to see it as well.

I saw another 2 videos of yours on athenes stream, I dont want to stay linking so I dont seem like I am trying to 'pick' on your guide / barb, but one of them is in arreat core and tower ... you are also just forced to kite even white mobs because you cant keep the fury / leech up, and in arreat core vs a golgor and succubus pack you are constantly at close to dead so have to retreat and refill bulb by kiting them into sprint, etc ... on MP10 i think? MP10 is already inefficient to farm, you are making it 10x more so, because of this kiting and stop / start, hit / run tactics you take much much longer to kill packs. The simple thing you are missing is you are doing shield build with very low dps for it and your attack speed is only 1.3 x 1.25 = 1.625, 5 tps nados, if not on wotb just 4 tps .... very slow! No ias from gear, no dw bonus. You need at least 7 tps, that will leech and return fury so much faster, and makes ALL the difference! I think, at the very least, you should try it + also mention it in your guide.
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Oct 4 2012 09:58am
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Oct 4 2012 11:20am
This is how athene works.
you could be an athene too!
1. Play video games.
2. Tell people that you are supporting a charity.
3. Accept gear and gold donations.
4. Keep gear and some gold.
5. Get press coverage of giving the check to the kids and lol at your free gear and check from stream and youtube.

Athene isn't doing shit for any other reason than self proclamation. If he was it would be kept a secret instead of spammed all over the place.

Fuck athene.

A lot of people give to charity without telling me about it.

Attention whore.
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