@ getfronzty

get a nice fast double crit dmg sword/ wand /dagger with lifesteal on it

and exchange your chantodo' force with an apoc chantodo



since your gear is very good i assume u have plenty gold , if not sell your weapon and the source now and get those 2 items until it's too late

vit + 70 ar blackthornes are 2.5x more expensive than int/vit + 70 ar blackthornes. been watching the market for 2+ weeks

the life% won't be mitigated by the prismatic nerf. idk. it's pretty decent. i'll enter 70ar into my calc to see how much EHP i would gain or lose



trying to sell my old Force atm. i found 2 triums, and my second one was only 3.5k dps (from 178.5k) lower than my force. so i'm using it for now. it's pretty shitty, but since i have a black weapon, it can suffice until i find an APOC Force.

i need to test builds in PTR. i'm pretty sure my current build will be useless. right now, the only reason i'm farming like a beast is because i can get archon back up nigh instantly. with the proc coefficient nerf, i can't use archon anymore. i mean, i can KEEP IT UP, since i have enough DPS, but i won't have the mobility that i once had.

..assuming i get 9 apoc on my Force,

don't you think i'd need more apoc? for, let's say, a carpal tunnel build

i'd obviously LOVE to get a LL + double crit fast weapon, but if i need APOC, that shit will be even MORE than 1b+, which would be almost half of what i spent on my shit.

/e -- i just saw a 120-380 Force with APOC sell for 450m~. waiting to see how much the 100-420 Force will sell for. it's in 1 hour.

This post was edited by GetFrozty on Sep 22 2012 11:15am

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ll is so sweet , i would never consider going back without it , even if i would find a weapon which has much more dps than mine , ll is just nice , even elecrocuting mobs gives plenty life back , resitances yer i will stock them up since force armor get nerfed

so yeah 9 apoc is totaly enough at least for me , i can spam plenty tornados in a very short time when i hit a group of mobs , nasty mobs like shamans and heralds get elecrocuted, this was tested with wicked wind.

get ll and apoc , double crit ll weapons 1 k dps + go for 150 million and above , chantodo's yer that was one lucky shot i made when i bought mine for 57 million but apoc will be a must when the nerf comes



and u dont have to farm like crazy because it will take at least one month until the patch is deployed on the normal servers , considering that they already failed so hard when launching the ptr

wait, 9 apoc on PTR was enough? you don't go OOM (AP in this case) at all?
was it tested on archon, or CM-EB build?

i'm far too used to getting archon back up in ~3 seconds

btw the Force with:

118-424, 194 int, 8/10% (asi/cc), 7 apoc went for 800m~

fuck my life for not getting apoc, man. you got very lucky with that 57, buy

This post was edited by GetFrozty on Sep 22 2012 12:20pm

I really don't get how you get that archon back up so soon. Mine seems to take FOREVER even when mass spamming tornados and what not

yes tested on archon built , ofc u are not able to get it back in 3 seconds maybe like 10 secs now

i'll stream tomorrow, so you can see what i mean.





okay. maybe that's not so bad in higher monster levels then

ty for testing

This post was edited by GetFrozty on Sep 22 2012 12:34pm

Its just that I just tested it with 45% crit chance and I still had to kite mobs for like 10-20 seconds before getting archon back up by using SC. I don't have LL on my current wand so perhaps that might help a bit and my dps is around 100k

If you don't have hundreds of millions to spend on a decent apoc source, you could just get some jank source and swap it in until you do.

maybe as a feedback:
played several runs now with mistral breeze+evocation instead of storm chaser and glas cannon.
works pretty solid, very playable still, so not much to fear for the patch imo.
(My setup is 50,5% crit for twister (and 65,5% with nova buff) and 2,32 aps.)


If you add in the CC diminishing returns and the nice skill changes that will come i guess the cm/twister wizz is safe.