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Nov 8 2012 09:54pm
Quote (MrDictatoHead @ Nov 8 2012 10:34pm)
Well... for a single target, to get 900 LOH, you need about 1800 life back per second (if you attack at 2/sec)... there's an 80% inferno nerf on life steal, so you really only get 3% * 20% = 0.6%

1800 / 0.006 = 300,000 dps is needed to get 900 LOH.  However, keep in mind that cyclones generates about 120% more dps than your paper DPS and LOH gets nerfed by proc rates (ie.  you really only get a portion of your LOH for multi-hitting skills).

Anyway, from personal experience, I started with 1200 LOH until 40K dps, then I went to 2.9% LS and 600 LOH until now.  People say LS becomes better at 80K dps, but I think that's for other classes.  Monks have way more off-sheet dps.


I tried swapping my 721 LOH for a different off-hand that has 2.2% life steal and it felt like i wasn't getting any life in return. i'm only at 51K dps though. I really need to get a better hellfire, would give me a huge DPS increase.
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Nov 8 2012 11:01pm
Just sniped a rare chest with 89 dex 289 vital 75 all res 3 socket for....10mil...

It was at 1d12h. I think he forgot 1 zero at the end. Lol
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Nov 8 2012 11:19pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Nov 9 2012 12:01am)
Just sniped a rare chest with 89 dex 289 vital 75 all res 3 socket for....10mil...

It was at 1d12h. I think he forgot 1 zero at the end. Lol


yeah that chest is sick, great snipe
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Nov 9 2012 01:15am
nice chest snipe haha.

im a mix feelin on those 1 less zero situation. Good if i buyin, but BAD if i sellin (happened to me for a witching hour :( ... lost BIG profit)
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Nov 9 2012 02:41am
Thanks for the feedback, ya'll. New Inna's helm was a no brainer, got one with +1k life, +1k dps, +30@ res and 300 armor upgrade for 500k b/o, lol...I can't believe I spent 17m on that p.o.s. back in the day >.> haha

Still looking at other slots. The reason I keep saying VW is a small upgrade is because, I have 123 @ res on my shoulders right now. The 8% life is worth about 50 vit, so that's about 130 vit. So my current shoulders are basically 90 dex/130 vit/130 res all/300 armor and cost me something liek 4m. So I'd have to get at least 130 vit on the VW to *break even*. Yeah, I'll see 300 more armor, but I'm losing 40 res all with a *perfect* res roll on the VW, which means my mitigation goes DOWN slightly, and that's for a *starting* price of 50 mil. Not looking like a sweet deal to me...so what am I missing? Life regen? Come on. I gain dex, but at this point I'm looking more at ehp than dex, at least for a shoulder slot. So you tell me, how is it such a big upgrade?

I've got a chest with 70 dex, 150 vit, 3 os and about 90 res all. I took it off because a.) I got that Tyraels super cheap (and it was a direct upgrade) and b.) I was planning on getting Ice Climbers, so with the Tyraels I don't have to get MS boots which means they wont' cost 200m. But if I get Nats, I can lose the chest. So, I am still throwing around ideas. For now, I'm gonna get some 30m ice climbers and maybe shop around for some better jewelry. I'll have to take the nat's plunge at a later time I think. I found a ring similar to yours for 50m, and boots for about the same. But then, I'm losing about 6k health for a maybe 7k dps gain if I'm lucky...idk. I just think, if I can't afford really GG nats stuff, I might as well just not get middle of the road ones. Problem is I have decent gear that I'm replacing so the upgrades are expensive. I got a new belt for cheap with 165 vit on it, so that helps too. I think I'll pour gold into offensive slots like gloves and jewelry and weaps to upgrade my DPS, until I hit that next brick wall where you need GG items for each slot to get a good upgrade.
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Quote (kylezo @ Nov 9 2012 03:41am)
Thanks for the feedback, ya'll. New Inna's helm was a no brainer, got one with +1k life, +1k dps, +30@ res and 300 armor upgrade for 500k b/o, lol...I can't believe I spent 17m on that p.o.s. back in the day >.> haha

Still looking at other slots. The reason I keep saying VW is a small upgrade is because, I have 123 @ res on my shoulders right now. The 8% life is worth about 50 vit, so that's about 130 vit. So my current shoulders are basically 90 dex/130 vit/130 res all/300 armor and cost me something liek 4m. So I'd have to get at least 130 vit on the VW to *break even*. Yeah, I'll see 300 more armor, but I'm losing 40 res all with a *perfect* res roll on the VW, which means my mitigation goes DOWN slightly, and that's for a *starting* price of 50 mil. Not looking like a sweet deal to me...so what am I missing? Life regen? Come on. I gain dex, but at this point I'm looking more at ehp than dex, at least for a shoulder slot. So you tell me, how is it such a big upgrade?

I've got a chest with 70 dex, 150 vit, 3 os and about 90 res all. I took it off because a.) I got that Tyraels super cheap (and it was a direct upgrade) and b.) I was planning on getting Ice Climbers, so with the Tyraels I don't have to get MS boots which means they wont' cost 200m. But if I get Nats, I can lose the chest. So, I am still throwing around ideas. For now, I'm gonna get some 30m ice climbers and maybe shop around for some better jewelry. I'll have to take the nat's plunge at a later time I think. I found a ring similar to yours for 50m, and boots for about the same. But then, I'm losing about 6k health for a maybe 7k dps gain if I'm lucky...idk. I just think, if I can't afford really GG nats stuff, I might as well just not get middle of the road ones. Problem is I have decent gear that I'm replacing so the upgrades are expensive. I got a new belt for cheap with 165 vit on it, so that helps too. I think I'll pour gold into offensive slots like gloves and jewelry and weaps to upgrade my DPS, until I hit that next brick wall where you need GG items for each slot to get a good upgrade.


id double check on this but i belive you can get vile wards that are like 180 dex 70 vita 50 main res, 70+ all res.

so all your really loosing is like 2 k life while you gain 300 armor, regen and 100 more dex.

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Nov 9 2012 03:25am
Quote (Ylem122 @ Nov 9 2012 12:55am)
id double check on this but i belive you can get vile wards that are like 180 dex 70 vita 50 main res, 70+ all res.

so all your really loosing is like 2 k life while you gain 300 armor, regen and 100 more dex.


I'm gonna check on it, ty :)

/e: I found a couple of auctions that look promising with low vit. I'm gonna keep watching em. Thanks!

This post was edited by kylezo on Nov 9 2012 03:29am
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Nov 9 2012 05:58am
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Nov 9 2012 11:16am
New chest is updated. WOOT.

With my regular set up, my life is around 50k now. lol

Did mp8 uber with Ltmbear yesterday. I feel like monks can benefit a lot from high hp. It felt much safer with almost 7k life added from the chest upgrade.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KimSulki84-1308/hero/7645093


Quote (jackherer @ Nov 9 2012 04:58am)


You are on the right track. :D

I wouldn't use Transcendance as a third passive. Use one of these: Guardian Path / Resolve / Beacon of Ytar / Combination Strike.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Nov 9 2012 11:22am
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Nov 9 2012 12:45pm
saw the discussion about min dmg, max dmg and avarage dmg. Maybe i missed it but didnt see any1 test it. did some quick test and here is the result:

w/o amu = 1237 - 1676
w 35 min dmg amu = 1275 - 1676
w 23-57 dmg amu = 1262 - 1737
w 33 max dmg = 1237 - 1712

tested with blue amus with no other stats that can affect test.

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