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Nov 8 2012 05:49pm
Quote (kylezo @ Nov 8 2012 04:43pm)
Thanks for feedback

A better ef would probably be a good investment...my ls works pretty well for me, but just barely. I have pretty low dps and low EHP so it's just on the edge. More of either would be a great help but I'm not really sure what I should change out next.

I spent 75m on nats boots and ring and I gained a whopping 600 dps. Lost 4k health and 100 res all.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kylezo-1560/hero/933168


You gained a whopping 600dps and lost other stats because you bought a crappy rolled ones.

I've gained +13k and gained other valuable stats as well in the process. I spent 150mil for my combo. And my previous boots and ring set up weren't too shabby either.

I believe you should put your mainhand on the offhand. Get a high dps/high dex/open socket (vital is great bonus as it can roll with all these stats). Higher dmg with single lifesteal is fine. I'm doing fine with 3% in all mp lvls.

And pick up a decent vile ward for like 20mil. +180dex/+60vital ones. It should give you good dmg bump as well as huge armor/lps/res. There's a reason why everyone gets a nice vile ward.

EDIT: you can get a much better Inna's helm with like 5mil dude. Go get one. Your current one is crappy as hell.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Nov 8 2012 05:50pm
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Nov 8 2012 06:05pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Nov 8 2012 06:37pm)
What are your regular set up in terms of weapons?


i can't get dprogress or my profile to update, maybe add me and i can show you?

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Nov 8 2012 06:29pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Nov 8 2012 03:49pm)
You gained a whopping 600dps and lost other stats because you bought a crappy rolled ones.

I've gained +13k and gained other valuable stats as well in the process. I spent 150mil for my combo. And my previous boots and ring set up weren't too shabby either.

I believe you should put your mainhand on the offhand. Get a high dps/high dex/open socket (vital is great bonus as it can roll with all these stats). Higher dmg with single lifesteal is fine. I'm doing fine with 3% in all mp lvls.

And pick up a decent vile ward for like 20mil. +180dex/+60vital ones. It should give you good dmg bump as well as huge armor/lps/res. There's a reason why everyone gets a nice vile ward.

EDIT: you can get a much better Inna's helm with like 5mil dude. Go get one. Your current one is crappy as hell.


Wow, what the hell happened to innas helm prices? Lol I got this one for like 17m or something...ty for that lol.

I was looking at vile wards but it costs a LOT for a small upgrade...I'm gonna keep bidding though. Looking at ice climbers, new helm, and VW, and that should help a lot.

I did get crappy nats, but that's because a good ring alone costs more gold than I have ever seen. And the ring is the part that really can only roll much better...I mean you can get high dex on the boots, but it's a small bonus compared to getting a 6 crit ring instead... can't afford that stuff.
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Nov 8 2012 06:34pm
Quote (kylezo @ Nov 8 2012 05:29pm)
Wow, what the hell happened to innas helm prices? Lol I got this one for like 17m or something...ty for that lol.

I was looking at vile wards but it costs a LOT for a small upgrade...I'm gonna keep bidding though. Looking at ice climbers, new helm, and VW, and that should help a lot.

I did get crappy nats, but that's because a good ring alone costs more gold than I have ever seen. And the ring is the part that really can only roll much better...I mean you can get high dex on the boots, but it's a small bonus compared to getting a 6 crit ring instead... can't afford that stuff.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KimSulki84-1308/hero/7645093

got my boots for like 65mil

got my ring for like 80mil

everything's much cheaper than before now. i bought my inna's helm for like 6mil. this is more like 40mil in 1.0.4. lol

a decent vile ward is not small upgrade dude. you will probably get 100 more dex / almost +250 armor / almost 300 life per second. this is pretty insane upgrade both on dmg and ehp. don't know why you are keep saying that it's a small upgrade. i got mine for like 20mil i think. there are plenty of them around the similar pricing range too.

you gotta boost your dex by a lot. 2k flat is pretty damn low for a monk.

and if you can't afford nat's ring with crit dmg or crit chance, just get one with high dex or socket. and put a big emerald for 50 dex.

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Nov 8 2012 06:43pm
Quote (kylezo @ Nov 9 2012 06:49am)
Ok guys, I got about 140m now, what should I do next? My ehp is really bad. about 630 res all w/ OWE and about 5k armor. Vile Ward isn't a very big upgrade though...couple hundred armor, a hundred dex, and I lose like 4k health. Not sure where to go from here.

[URL=http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kylezo-1560/hero/933168]http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kylezo-1560/hero/933168[/URL]



There are a couple of suggestions that I have for you man.

1. Improve Your EHP.
- Your vit is a little low if you plan on moving up into the high MP levels I think and this also means that the life % on your shoulders isnt doing as much as it should for you. I would get a new chest with dex, high vit(200+), @ res, poison res, and 3 SOCKETS, this will boost your defense quite a bit I think.
- Would recommend another big vit piece, perhaps your belt or get more on your helm/bracers. Look for around 150ish.
(Jinshin said before but your Inna's helm could easily be upgraded for cheap)

2. Get a new mainhand.
- Since you have your EF as your offhand with lifesteal you can get a slower mainhand weapon with high dmg range. Depending on how much your looking to spend go for one or more of the following (dex, natural crit dmg, lifesteal) but make sure it has an open socket. Also avoid the "increase attack speed" mod on your weapons, especially your mainhand.

3. From then you can look to get 2 piece nats, however I would make sure that you have enough money to invest into them that you are actually upgrading rather than sidegrading otherwise it is not really worth it.

Good luck
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Nov 8 2012 07:02pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Nov 8 2012 03:21pm)
If you don't like Echoing Fury, you should get 2 weapons with dex/crit/lifesteal/open socket.


if I get 2x of these they are going to be pretty low dps.

is 3% life steal enough so I can get a main hand with more dps?
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Nov 8 2012 07:03pm
Quote (DeviousX @ Nov 8 2012 06:02pm)
if I get 2x of these they are going to be pretty low dps.

is 3% life steal enough so I can get a main hand with more dps?


Yes. Get a mainhand with huge dps / dex / crit / open socket.

And get a nice offhand lifesteal.

Happy shopping man.
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Nov 8 2012 08:04pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Nov 8 2012 05:03pm)
Yes. Get a mainhand with huge dps / dex / crit / open socket.

And get a nice offhand lifesteal.

Happy shopping man.


sorry for asking so many questions, but the only main hands with 1.4 speed i'd be able to afford have 950ish dps is it bad to get a spear or mace if it has over 1k dps?

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Nov 8 2012 09:12pm
what's the magic number of DPS you should have to make the jump from loh to life steal on your typical FoT/Sweeping Wind monk?
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Quote (DeviousX @ Nov 9 2012 11:04am)
sorry for asking so many questions, but the only main hands with 1.4 speed i'd be able to afford have 950ish dps is it bad to get a spear or mace if it has over 1k dps?


www.theasiangamer.com can tell your exactly DPS with either weapon. Generally speaking, at around 45% crit chance, 1 min/max dmg = 1.5 dex, 1 crit damage = 4 dex, so 50 dps difference would equal about 50 min and 50 max damage, which is 150 dex-worth of difference, which is around 38% crit damage.

Quote (numone @ Nov 9 2012 12:12pm)
what's the magic number of DPS you should have to make the jump from loh to life steal on your typical FoT/Sweeping Wind monk?


Well... for a single target, to get 900 LOH, you need about 1800 life back per second (if you attack at 2/sec)... there's an 80% inferno nerf on life steal, so you really only get 3% * 20% = 0.6%

1800 / 0.006 = 300,000 dps is needed to get 900 LOH. However, keep in mind that cyclones generates about 120% more dps than your paper DPS and LOH gets nerfed by proc rates (ie. you really only get a portion of your LOH for multi-hitting skills).

Anyway, from personal experience, I started with 1200 LOH until 40K dps, then I went to 2.9% LS and 600 LOH until now. People say LS becomes better at 80K dps, but I think that's for other classes. Monks have way more off-sheet dps.
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