if offhand, low dps with higher crit is best

if mainhand, 1150+dps with socket is best

make sure both are at least +.23 attacks per second if not 24,25

cant get it..

i ll explain it diffrend and sorry for my english..

axe --> 1000dps 300min - 300max 30ed
mace --> 1000dps 300min - 300max 35ed
(dont get the numbers exactly , i use em to explain what i want.)

axe makes your average speed faster... 1.55 with a ef 0.25 , and mace got 1.45 , why not to use axe and use mace?

I know my shit, you could just trust me.. or ill try to explain it so you can understand

WW and tornadoes go off breakpoints, so unless you hit a new breakpoint you arent hitting any faster whatsoever.. and the .1 difference in speed does not make you hit a new breakpoint

also, if you look at a 1000dps axe, and a 1000dps mace, the mace will have better RAW DAMAGE <---- this is what you want!

This post was edited by Tboner on Jan 13 2013 04:21pm

vouch this guy and this thread.

thanks to this i was able to up my barb to 250k unbuffed after understanding so much more about the concept of MH vs OH. it pwnt everything before i sold it

I'm confused.
I have 34% total ias, EF with 0.25aps but still only 2.21 aps.

Use wrath of the berserker.

man , u dont understand what i am saying..
yes with a mace + ef and 33 ias from gear i hit the bp 2.5 with berserker..
but if i use an axe and ef u only need 27 ias from gear to get that breakpoint..

and axe can have more Raw dmg than an Mace , if the mace with that 1000dps got 38ED and the axe got 30ed i will have more raw dmg to reach that 1000dps...

The axe without at least 8% ias will not be 1.40 speed, which means it won't sync well with EF. Also, WW's and Nados' dmg is calculated from the base weapon damage, which is the big DPS number, divided by the attack speed. So your

1000 dps axe = 1000/1.3 = 769 dmg
1000 dps mace = 1000/1.2 = 833 dmg

Here is what syncs well with EF:

Mace/EF (both the same base, obviously)
Axe w/8%+ ias (at least 1.40 speed)/EF (the axe will hit one bp higher than the EF with the same ias from gear)
EF/Sword (same as axe example above)
EF/Dagger with max 11% ias (dagger will hit 2 bps above the EF with one a few more percent ias)

Normal speed axe (1.30) and EF have no synergy.

no, it wont have more raw damage

and if you use 27ias you will not hit the breakpoint with your echoing fury, only with your axe

I know what im talking about, just take my advice





THIS!!!

This post was edited by Tboner on Jan 13 2013 05:50pm

I play without WotB on MP0.
But I guess that wont be a problem when 1.07 arrives.