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Nov 6 2012 02:28pm
Quote (Falt @ Nov 6 2012 01:27pm)
This also makes it a very good idea to active blind - faith in the light BEFORE you active sweeping wind vs ubers for example. (where you can keep it upp all the fight even w/o 4 innas)


This, we talked about it before in this thread.

It makes difference for sure. I can tell.

I get foresight / boh buff and the pop SW.
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Nov 6 2012 02:32pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ 6 Nov 2012 21:26)
Is Rehwyn from Blizzard?

Saw your "edit" Falt, not trying to a jerk here but nothing's confirmed, really. Just speculating.


yes i understand, but aslong as i cant find any proof that hes wrong i think its correct :) sounds reasonable imo.
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Nov 6 2012 03:09pm
Quote (Falt @ 6 Nov 2012 15:32)
yes i understand, but as long as i cant find any proof that hes wrong i think its correct :) sounds reasonable imo.


the blinding flash + FitL has been tested/proven a long time ago (prior to this guy's thread).

It can be tested pretty easily on your own.

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Nov 6 2012 03:20pm
Quote (brainoverride @ Nov 6 2012 01:09pm)
the blinding flash + FitL has been tested/proven a long time ago (prior to this guy's thread).

It can be tested pretty easily on your own.


They are talking about weapon speed/dps, not blind.

And it's very easily confirmable on your own. The post is correct. SW (and cyclone) dmg is based off of currently active weapon damage. So if you have a large discrepancy between your 2 weapons, you'll see a difference. Most people wont. In any case, dps with the cyclone build scales better with higher attack speed, so all other things being equal, there is always more benefit to DW if you can find good weapons. Of course, if you have a great 2h and terrble 1hs, then yes, 2h will be better, but that's not because of the way the skills work, it's because of the weapon discrepancy.
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Nov 6 2012 03:26pm
Quote (kylezo @ 6 Nov 2012 22:20)
They are talking about weapon speed/dps, not blind.

And it's very easily confirmable on your own. The post is correct.  SW (and cyclone) dmg is based off of currently active weapon damage. So if you have a large discrepancy between your 2 weapons, you'll see a difference. Most people wont. In any case, dps with the cyclone build scales better with higher attack speed, so all other things being equal, there is always more benefit to DW if you can find good weapons. Of course, if you have a great 2h and terrble 1hs, then yes, 2h will be better, but that's not because of the way the skills work, it's because of the weapon discrepancy.


No? this is 1 of the things we talked about on the last page.
if you have 100k sheet dps it does NOT mather if you have 2 fast 1-handers or a slow 2-hander you will still deal the same damage if you only autoattack with sweeping wind active (not taking any other skill in consideration)

* http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6202181225?page=1

This post was edited by Falt on Nov 6 2012 03:26pm
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Nov 6 2012 04:13pm
i am pretty sure sweeping wind, as well as every other skills in this game, scale off weapon damage, not DPS

so those who said 2x 1H will result in same sweeping wind damage as a 2H is absolutely false.

2H naturally have higher weapon damage, unless you are comparing between a mediocre 2H against a top 1H
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Nov 6 2012 04:13pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Nov 6 2012 02:48pm)
Damn. That's extremely detailed. LOL

Maybe or maybe not. Just go with the set up you really want!

I really don't think there's any "better" set up here. To each his own.

I personally just picked up a cheap Skorn for Tempest Rush farming set up. I do get a higher sheet dmg with Skorn, but boy I hate this fking slow weapon.


I grabbed a skorn also because of the DPS boost and ended up finding out not only do I survive better with 2 1xhand weapons (get my LOH more often) but I also seem to kill faster for some reason. Used the skorn for a whole 1 day then switched back to my old weapons.
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Nov 6 2012 04:34pm
Quote (numone @ 6 Nov 2012 23:13)
I grabbed a skorn also because of the DPS boost and ended up finding out not only do I survive better with 2 1xhand weapons (get my LOH more often) but I also seem to kill faster for some reason. Used the skorn for a whole 1 day then switched back to my old weapons.


did you take time vs like azmodan on like mp7+ to make sure it was faster with 2x1h?

because if someone have skorn and dw setup with exact same dps feel free to do some testing vs mobs with fixed amount hp :)
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Nov 6 2012 04:39pm
Quote (Falt @ Nov 6 2012 03:34pm)
did you take time vs like azmodan on like mp7+ to make sure it was faster with 2x1h?

because if someone have skorn and dw setup with exact same dps feel free to do some testing vs mobs with fixed amount hp :)


I've played 400 hours with my monk since June. I can tell the difference without testing.

My Skorn set up is much weaker than my DW set up. Skorn gives me +150k unbuffed sheet dps, and DW set up gives me 140k unbuffed sheet dps.

I don't know the technicality behind this, but I really don't care what exactly is happening with these two set ups. I personally feel like with all things equal, DW set up is better than 2Hander on Monks.

I may be very wrong, but it's my opinion. LOL

And it's just not "Fun" with 2 hander. Maybe it's just me. Meh.

If both set up put out the exact same dmg, I would take +2.4aps over +1.4aps anyday without even thinking about it for .4 second.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Nov 6 2012 04:42pm
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Nov 6 2012 04:44pm
Quote (Falt @ 7 Nov 2012 01:34)
did you take time vs like azmodan on like mp7+ to make sure it was faster with 2x1h?

because if someone have skorn and dw setup with exact same dps feel free to do some testing vs mobs with fixed amount hp :)


That surely correct, but in my case atleast, where i'm using 1233dps 2.4% steal, socketed Echoing Fury and 1210dps 154% critical 2.8% steal 1h sword, there is absolutely no way of using any slow weapon. I'm playing on mp3-mp4, as those are the only ones that make sense and my DPS is 260k unbuffed. The reason for that is, that i can 1 shot almost every single monster (golgors and tremors take 2) on those MP levels, and with a slow-ass weapon like Skorn is, during the time you kill 1 enemy with Skorn, the dual wielding setup would have been 2 screen away and raped 20 monsters.

But it's of course all about the situation and what you can afford, actually all thanks for my gear go to the Skorn i used to use on 1.05 release, we sold infernal machine events on mp7-9 for 14+ million per slot and the slots were taken instantly, i guess we made quite a much gold with my friend by doing this during the first few days after the patch released. It was boring as hell, but 100% certain income from a simple job :)

This post was edited by juhazzz on Nov 6 2012 04:45pm
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