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#4301
Oct 23 2012 05:20pm
Quote (huntersghost @ Oct 23 2012 05:38pm)
Build Diversity in Monk

LOL. what active/passive spells you monks using?

anyone of you actually use wave of light or lashing kick for end game?
how about inner santuary and other less commonly used spells?

what you think of monk passives?
2 less passives compared to other classes LOL!
owe, sti, resolve, fleeted foot, nde. are the rest useless?


Implying that every other class doesn't have a build that is always similar with just a few skill/passive changes between each person.

PS - I use lashing tail kick sometimes. Also, I use Guardian's Path and Pacifism with OWE. Kthx

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#4302
Oct 23 2012 07:19pm
Quote (motoucle @ 23 Oct 2012 19:59)
did a lot of reading on this thread but many mixed up oppinions made me lose it :)
anyway since i quit a long time ago theorycrafting seems to have evolved a lot and will be hard to catch up on it (or at least not fast)

Right now i can do A3 easy on mp2 (guess even 3 with some patience) but i would like to speed things up a little so i am looking for the biggest bang for the buck if i may say so.

What would be the biggest improvement to get from my side in order to be able to run effectively? Not looking for pro stuff like mp xxxxxx but just some good time.
thx for the help and i know many questions like this have been asked but since some got an answer so i am hoping for the same :)

IGG budget is close to 0 given the amounts people talk about these days but could scrim the wallet a little so just looking at not to buy stuff not needed....

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/VladFarcas-2959/hero/7766653

thx


Quote (jinshin85 @ 23 Oct 2012 20:01)
get like 50mil to start. you can make a decent monk with the budget to begin with. basically everything you have is crap. just gotta trash all and start over.


dont need that much, i've spent around 1M on this untill i bid on some higher tier itens (ie innas,vileward,etc)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rmc-1926/hero/27781447

edit: current mainhand is a 1160 echo with small amount of vit.

This post was edited by DesTTTTT on Oct 23 2012 07:19pm
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#4303
Oct 23 2012 09:58pm
So this is my monk atm, what do i need to be able to survive better?? <33333

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/sushi-1787/hero/3106541
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#4304
Oct 23 2012 10:01pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Oct 24 2012 07:58am)
man give me some suggestions on where to go from now on for my monk..

i'm like stuck right now. don't know if i should dump the inna's helm for mempo and get the inn'a chest or get a nice vile ward and better gloves for the next step or I DON'T KNOW. WHAT SHOULD I DO?


I'm not a fan of your Union Drive ring. I like my ring slots for crit chance, attack speed and LOH. SOJ also comes to mind, but you can go cheap and get a compass rose for 12% movespeed (i noticed you don't have 24%). Lotsa options really, I just think a 7% IAS and 30% crit damage roll is quite mediocre compared to your other stuff.
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#4305
Oct 23 2012 10:08pm
Quote (DoubleSushi @ Oct 24 2012 12:58pm)
So this is my monk atm, what do i need to be able to survive better??  <33333

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/sushi-1787/hero/3106541


LIFESTEAL!!! at 91k damage, even with the 80% nerf:

.20 inferno nerf * 91,000 dps * .026 %lifesteal = 473 life per second.

However, that doesn't account for your cyclones... which generate an additional 100% or so damage (depends on mob size, crit% and IAS)... so you're looking at about 1000 life/second just from 2.6% lifesteal!
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#4306
Oct 23 2012 10:16pm
Quote (DoubleSushi @ Oct 24 2012 12:58pm)
So this is my monk atm, what do i need to be able to survive better??  <33333

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/sushi-1787/hero/3106541


I noticed also that you have lots of hp per spirit spent but no real spirit spenders... mantra of healing/time of need does not help as much as you think... preventing/avoiding damage is better than healing damage taken... because you're not using seize the initiative (which you should over transcendence) i'd use mantra of evasion: hard target.

Also, You're don't have enough spirit spenders to really take advantage of the 4 set inna's bonus. A 0 cost sweeping wind might actually work against you with so much hp/spirit... I'd take out the belt and put a solid one with high double resist, armor, dex, vit and/or life regeneration. I also think 30ish-K life is too little, 40K is a good goal. Consider replacing some gems to get that... but I honestly feel that replacing inna's belt for a solid rare one will help greatly.
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#4307
Oct 23 2012 10:19pm
Quote (huntersghost @ Oct 23 2012 05:38pm)
Build Diversity in Monk

LOL. what active/passive spells you monks using?

anyone of you actually use wave of light or lashing kick for end game?
how about inner santuary and other less commonly used spells?

what you think of monk passives?
2 less passives compared to other classes LOL!
owe, sti, resolve, fleeted foot, nde. are the rest useless?


once i get a spirit regen innas im probly going to go tempest rush/wave of light, passives to be fleet footed owe and the one that adds 100 spirit, switch out cyclone rune for inner storm or which ever it is that gives 3 spirit regen. 2 from soj, 2 from helm 1 from passive, and 3 from inner storm is 8 regen per sec, should be enough.

probly one of the best monk builds for running mp 1.
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#4308
Oct 23 2012 10:23pm
Quote (juhazzz @ 22 Oct 2012 10:03)
Hmmh. A bit of hard decision now. I finally got new mainhand to replace Skorn. 1102 dps 3% steal 152% critical sword.

So the problem is, i've saved some gold now and could almost afford 1245 dps 159% critical Echoing Fury and I really don't know if that 3% steal alone from mainhand is enough, as it's not a cheap test to find out it's not enough.

Dps would be ~230k with those weapons and the natalya's ring i'm about to buy..

So should i instead be looking for 1200+ dps echo with life steal on it ?

Now with skorn and 5.9% steal it's just damn massive life returns, can stand still on desecrator with reflect damage mobs etc, but i hate it's so ugly slow -,-


OK Answering myself, a bit of a loss in dps but 2x fast 1 handers vs Uglee-Skorn. DPS went down by 4k compared to Skorn, but killing speed still halved or so, propably because my screen is again full of tornadoes from sweeping wind :)

And I didn't buy that 1240 dps echoing fury with crit+socket afterall (eventho that alone would raise dps +31k), instead bought rare for mainhand, now need to keep my eyes on the _real_ natalyas ring and some rare amulet, shouldn't be that hard to get back to 200k dps.

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/juhazzz-2105/IsoLerssi/9835569

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#4309
Oct 23 2012 10:33pm
Quote (Ylem122 @ Oct 24 2012 01:19pm)
once i get a spirit regen innas im probly going to go tempest rush/wave of light, passives to be fleet footed owe and the one that adds 100 spirit, switch out cyclone rune for inner storm or which ever it is that gives 3 spirit regen. 2 from soj, 2 from helm 1 from passive, and 3 from inner storm is 8 regen per sec, should be enough.

probly one of the best monk builds for running mp 1.


I ran mp3 with that build last night. Awesome. I just have 2 from radiance, 2 from SOJ, 1 from exalted soul and a little from my templar... ATM, I only have 12% run too... In mob dense areas, I never have any trouble maintaining spirit. Might be because I don't one-shot everything.

I suspect you only need infinite rush if you one shot whites with tempust rush itself... Otherwise you can offset the loss of spirit by upping the mp level.
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#4310
Oct 23 2012 10:35pm
Quote (MrDictatoHead @ Oct 24 2012 12:33am)
I ran mp3 with that build last night. Awesome. I just have 2 from radiance, 2 from SOJ, 1 from exalted soul and a little from my templar... ATM, I only have 12% run too... In mob dense areas, I never have any trouble maintaining spirit. Might be because I don't one-shot everything.

I suspect you only need infinite rush if you one shot whites with tempust rush itself... Otherwise you can offset the loss of spirit by upping the mp level.


wave of light too? thats where the sprit regen is really needed.

also i plan on using submission over overawe, if im not spamming mantra submission actually does more dmg over time and you can leech from it.

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