Skorn just is better for higher LL no? Because with mojo + black weapon get more dps

not only the higher ll is an advantage of skorns, its also the easier mana management/ better cast sustain. on bats builds, it doesnt really matter as long as the mojo has mana regen on it, but whenever a build also uses bears or spirit barrage or whatever other secondary attack skill, skorn is using the available mana MUCH more efficiently.

and, for a given level of effective dps, skorn is cheaper than 1h/mojo since you only need one good item instead of 2.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 13 2013 03:43am

yep, you're right.
I'm on doubt with that, If use Skorn or black weapon + zuni string

Its pretty balanced. My friend let me use his 1400dps/6%ls skorn worth many billions for a few weeks and it worked really well. I noticed the biggest difference against reflect packs. 1hmojo has to be very careful when engaging rd.

The 6%ls wasn't invincible tho. Stun/freeze/knockback/etc would create a window of time where I wasn't lifestealing. I could easily die if hit a bunch of times during this. There is not much difference between the 2 weapon styles in these situations.

The skorn was much better for survival in the general sense.

1handmojo has its advantages too. 1hmojo can output more dmg and provide more stats. Notably, 1hmojo can give many defensive stats, higher int, and %bonus to elites. Also, SoS mojo can provide alow tons of options like replacing zuni helm with mempo or batvisage or replacing pox with a gg ring.

I returned the skorn last week and grabbed a temporarily knife and mojo while I wait for the right replacements or gg skorn to come up on the ah for a good price. Mkc was 195 mill and the serpent was 80 mill.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/impking-1585/hero/3330596

The resource aspect somewhat favors the skorn but can easily be managed with 1hmojo. I was using a SoS/6ccbatVisage combo before using my current one and it was very good with mana without a noticeable dps loss. I was able to run gf/gi/spirit vessal instead of gf/gi/blood ritual. This helped a ton with the 1hmojo rd issue.

The price of a really good lifesteal skorn is very high so I don't really agree with the assessment that the skorn route is cheaper. Putting together a good 1hmojo combo doesn't have to break the bank.

With an unlimited budget, I would get both and swap depending on the situation.

This post was edited by impking on Jun 13 2013 06:27am

i got a 1411 dps, 5.8 ls, 332 int 179 cd skorn for less than a bil, so it really doesnt cost thaaaat much. to achieve the same level of effectiveness, a 1hmojo setup probably needs 1bil each.
keep in mind that the effectiveness of a 1hmojo build is reduced by the cautiousness required against RD packs - the time lost against those compared to a skorn user has to be made up elsewhere to achieve the same overall killspeed.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 13 2013 11:11am

Have you checked skorn prices recently?

That skorn is worth 2b easy nowadays.

i was talking about EU. I neither know nor care about the fucked up us.sc economy. thank blizzards limitless incompetence for those prices.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 13 2013 01:52pm

im stuck a little

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Smith1989-2506/hero/23829578

I have 400m IGG free to spend...more if I sell up my barb, what would my obvious upgrades be? I cant justify spending all my gold for an added 2-3k dps tho :/

try to craft new gloves, amu and bracers;)

cant really find much better gloves than I have at present..