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Jun 20 2014 06:47pm
Google the testing philosophios(idk name spelling)

Put on YouTube and you'll out your TnT In your stash.

Taskers suck. I have great trifecta sand don't use them. They suck for fire or physical.

E/ unless your marauder gloves, magefists, and cindercoat are complete garbage ofc.

Godly > trash regardless of which item it is.

Of all equal quality

Hexing(if okay with play style, I don't like them) > magefist > cinder > tasker

I would even argue Mara gloves in place of tasker and using a godly ring instead but some people have godly rorgs so w/e

This post was edited by IInferno on Jun 20 2014 06:52pm
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Quote (spanky6390 @ Jun 20 2014 04:24pm)
I fully agree with this guy 100%

Again another point on magefists over........


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Quote (IInferno @ Jun 20 2014 08:47pm)
Google the testing philosophios(idk name spelling)

Put on YouTube and you'll out your TnT In your stash.

Taskers suck. I have great trifecta sand don't use them. They suck for fire or physical.

E/ unless your marauder gloves, magefists, and cindercoat are complete garbage ofc.

Godly > trash regardless of which item it is.

Of all equal quality

Hexing(if okay with play style, I don't like them) > magefist > cinder > tasker

I would even argue Mara gloves in place of tasker and using a godly ring instead but some people have godly rorgs so w/e


VOUCH , it's been tested. 6pce + unity + soj
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Jun 20 2014 07:30pm
lets compare again
best magefist would be 20% fire 50 cd 10 cc 7xx dex 8 cdr + marauder armor for example xxx vit xxx dex 15% sentry 3 sock
vs best cindercoat 20% fire dmg 30% fire skills cost reduction xxx dex xxx vit + marauder gloves 50 chd 10 cc 7xx dex 8 cdr

so basiclly all you gain is +15% sentry incase youre super lucky to roll such perfect stats
and no doubt this bonus is not worth for paralizing your whole dh from attacking.
your theory failed imo.

about T&T gloves etc = for physical build ofc, but even as physical build I wouldnt use it.
for Physical build I'd go for Marauder gloves + "The Cloak of the garwulf" which summons 2 more wolves to ur side.

This post was edited by NiRo_O on Jun 20 2014 07:31pm
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Quote (NiRo_O @ Jun 20 2014 09:07am)
Regarding the calamity thing.. imagine your whole party does 20% additional damage
Compared to that u would get additional 20%-25% dps for ur dh only


this is where you're completely wrong.

the average damage on a calamity at best is going to be ~1600 base, and thats a very high base. most are 14-1500

the average damage on a 2h crossbow like manticore or arcane barb is going to be ~22-2300 with ease.

thats about a 45% damage increase in the 2h over the calamity, before the MFD is applied.

so on average, if if your sentries deal 10m while wielding calamity before MFD is applied, they will deal 12m on average after applying it.

that's still less than what they will deal with a 2h crossbow equipped.

this also requires getting a calamity, and getting a good enough roll on it.

you can craft an arcane barb with amazing stats for a sentry build with ease, either going for 10% CDR or 10% damage to the base. both are great.
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Jun 20 2014 11:37pm
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/barrybondz-1111/hero/10544772

BiS = Physical hands down. 3x rockets for 400% + 100% increased damage (800%) + physical/sentry damage oh and lets not forget that elite damage and the initial cluster damage of 550% in the mix.
My pets deal 100m damage in like 3 seconds, which is ridiculous.
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/barrybondz-1111/hero/10544772

BiS = Physical hands down. 3x rockets for 400% + 100% increased damage (800%) + physical/sentry damage oh and lets not forget that elite damage and the initial cluster damage of 550% in the mix.
My pets deal 100m damage in like 3 seconds, which is ridiculous.


I'd agree with you if there were only like 3 targets

but physical cluster missiles cant hit the same target three times
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Jun 21 2014 12:29am
Quote (KennyBrando @ Jun 21 2014 06:04am)
I'd agree with you if there were only like 3 targets

but physical cluster missiles cant hit the same target three times


Considering must fire dh's clear t6 with a unity slower than I do as physical id say there's a pretty big gap and physical clears trash way faster than fire then murders elites.

This post was edited by GloR1oUS on Jun 21 2014 12:29am
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Quote (GloR1oUS @ Jun 21 2014 01:29am)
Considering must fire dh's clear t6 with a unity slower than I do as physical id say there's a pretty big gap and physical clears trash way faster than fire then murders elites.


fire > physical

in any situation

p.s. - steven from rose?

This post was edited by ltmbear on Jun 21 2014 01:51am
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Jun 21 2014 02:21am
Physical is not even a compatition to fire
even with pets' damage, it just cant deliver as much dmg

About the calamity issue, i admit its not the best choice.
i'm using a 2H bow now with 10% dmg 7xx dex

This post was edited by NiRo_O on Jun 21 2014 02:24am
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