can someone try to help a desperate barb here?

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65985092&f=142

really appreciate it!

I could easily ... but too lazy..



first off, ur 4 ias short of bumping up a breakpoint on both weapon sides.. this will help a bit with survivability

and.. you have a pretty good build just a little short on resists

if you must have the 12% movespeed i suggest getting some IK boots, then ditching IK gloves for similar rare gloves but with some resists

you will prob lose some DPS depending on the boots/gloves you get but will gain 12% movespeed and res.. and bumping up your breakpoints will in the end increase your dps anyways




please stop spamming here or ill start reporting posts.. if you want to think this is a 200m barb or whatever you think, thats fine, but keep it to yourself! thanks!

This post was edited by Tboner on Jan 7 2013 02:58pm

Shit, that just ruined my day. Because honestly, you're the coolest fucking guy i've ever seen. I was really hoping to gain your approval. Now what do I do?

would getting a higher +as on ef help? think that'd be the cheapest option for me to bump up my speed ya? if i ditch my ic, i'd afraid my life would be way too low lol :/

yea with a +.25 echo i think you hit the breakpoint right on

and armor and resists are much more important then HP is (well.. depending on content you are doing i guess)

on a 20k life barb with enough armor/resists/lifesteal/DPS you could never die simply because you would be sustaining too much for anything to kill you..

but say on a 40k life barb with crap armor/res even though you have double the life you would still be draining life because you cant sustain enough

This post was edited by Tboner on Jan 7 2013 04:06pm

hmm yeah just wondering if the extra 12%ms matters alot. if say i use frenzy vanguard, can it make up for the 12%ms? idk how long frenzy lasts, i mean if it's less than 3s(sprint's duration), then it's fairly useless yeah?

na vanguard is pretty useless..

and the movespeed is nice cant deny that.. its not completely mandatory but I wouldnt build a barb without 24% ms

if i were to change my gloves with one that has str/vit/ar etc, change my ic to ik boots, pants to innas, would i hit the ias bp of my nados or am i still short of 1? lol :/

oh wait, my gloves is 8ias lol :/

btw mind walking through with me on how to calc my ias bp for nado?

This post was edited by Christie on Jan 7 2013 04:29pm

ill just tell you the formula and you can figure it out

take the break point you want to hit, divide it by the base speed of the weapon (dont forget to add the +.2x from echo on your rare) then minus 1.4 (40ias from dualwielding, and WOTB) you will end up with like 0.3x this means you need 3x ias from gear

for example

2.5 / 1.45 - 1.4 = 0.324 (round this up) , so 33 ias needed from gear, the 1.45 is the base speed of a perfect .25 echoing fury, so depends on your EF

on your sword the breakpoint you should aim for is 2.86

The formula: (Breakpoint_You_Want / Your_Weapon_Speed) - 1.4 = IAS_Needed

You can also further subtract 0.03 from the final number if you're using the enchantress, but her buff doesn't work when she dies and you can't use her when grouping; beware of relying on her.

To use you as an example, you would have to make 2 separate calculations since your weapons swing at different speeds, 1.41 and 1.61 (the .21 APS on your Echoing Fury affects both weapons).

To reach 2.50 bp on your MH mace:

(2.50 / 1.41) - 1.4 = .373 = 37.3% = 38% IAS needed

To reach 2.86 bp on your OH sword:

(2.857 / 1.61) - 1.4 = .375 = 37.5% = 38% IAS needed

So with 38% ias, you will break both breakpoints on your weapons, giving your nados an average between the two, for practical purposes. Your rings are both bad, so look there for upgrades, your hellfire is especially ghastly. You can also upgrade your EF to a .25 EF allowing you to hit both BPs with your current 34% ias. (Each .01 aps on the EF roughly equates to 1% ias.)