Quote (infallibleleo @ Nov 4 2012 02:04pm)

In short, this is the conclusion.

For ww barb build, it will utilize mainly 2 skills for damage. Nado & WW.

Nado damage (more than 80% of ww barb damage)--> depends on Mainhand dps, Strength, CC, CD, Average APS from both mh & oh
WW damage (less than 20% of ww barb damage)--> depends on Screen DPS ,  hence offhand dps will play its part here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qBCI70iFHo
This is the proof that whirlwind does less than 20% damage from overall ww barb build.

N let us compare 760dps dagger vs 1000dps sword.
In terms of ww damage, the sword would merely give an improvement of less than 8% of overall damage output.
On the other hand, dagger stats will affect nado damage significantly (higher aps, critical damage), which give at least 20% more damage output.

Quote (heyyous @ Nov 4 2012 02:29pm)

A would give you more damage from tornadoes granted you reach the threshold for more tornadoes...
B would give you more damage when you are using any other skill then whirlwind(even though whirlwind would hit higher also)
Too answer this question effectively I would need to know if that .10 from dagger makes you hit a higher ias breakpoint.

Quote (thief337 @ Nov 3 2012 10:01pm)

Yes.

Nado ticks aren't an average, it's whatever weapon you last swung with, and since the WW & RLTW breakpoints are the same, it gets stuck where you're only producing MH nados or only producing offhand Nados for a period of time while you're WWing.

Don't listen to these morons and their "40% damage from WW", WW's damage got buffed by nothing but negligible amounts, and these morons will do nothing but lead you astray.

Quote (infallibleleo @ Nov 4 2012 03:04pm)

In short, this is the conclusion.

For ww barb build, it will utilize mainly 2 skills for damage. Nado & WW.

Nado damage (more than 80% of ww barb damage)--> depends on Mainhand dps, Strength, CC, CD, Average APS from both mh & oh
WW damage (less than 20% of ww barb damage)--> depends on Screen DPS ,  hence offhand dps will play its part here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qBCI70iFHo
This is the proof that whirlwind does less than 20% damage from overall ww barb build.

N let us compare 760dps dagger vs 1000dps sword.
In terms of ww damage, the sword would merely give an improvement of less than 8% of overall damage output.
On the other hand, dagger stats will affect nado damage significantly (higher aps, critical damage), which give at least 20% more damage output.

Quote (infallibleleo @ Nov 4 2012 01:04pm)

In short, this is the conclusion.

For ww barb build, it will utilize mainly 2 skills for damage. Nado & WW.

Nado damage (more than 80% of ww barb damage)--> depends on Mainhand dps, Strength, CC, CD, Average APS from both mh & oh
WW damage (less than 20% of ww barb damage)--> depends on Screen DPS ,  hence offhand dps will play its part here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qBCI70iFHo
This is the proof that whirlwind does less than 20% damage from overall ww barb build.

N let us compare 760dps dagger vs 1000dps sword.
In terms of ww damage, the sword would merely give an improvement of less than 8% of overall damage output.
On the other hand, dagger stats will affect nado damage significantly (higher aps, critical damage), which give at least 20% more damage output.

Quote (Fyffes @ 4 Nov 2012 22:26)

This is wrong in so many ways. These stats are not accurate for previous patches let alone 1.05 where we have 60% less effective sprints.

Quote (theFan @ Nov 4 2012 01:39pm)

since when do ias breakpoints exist in d3? what are the lvls?