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Sep 4 2012 02:56pm
Quote (]GS[ Controller @ Sep 4 2012 08:44pm)
Again i can't seem to figure out what got you so upset but i hope it wasn't me.

The only reason I made this thread was to educate those in need, not to upset anyone.

And all of the invo is indeed factual and proven to work, and quiet well i might add.

Please though if you going to make rude and false comments/accusations please do it via pm thanks.


this aint a dmg control thread , its done
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Sep 4 2012 03:05pm
Quote (jaydo111 @ Sep 4 2012 03:56pm)
this aint a dmg control thread , its done


Good then please leave ;P

You're not helping anyone in need, and your trolling is not wanted as well.
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Sep 4 2012 03:20pm
Quote (]GS[ Controller @ Sep 2 2012 07:38pm)
Again you're confused.
I found that skorn on my (5th?) act 3 run using a 80k wep and 50k off hand.
The wep was 1014 dmg blue ceremonial knife with mana gen and the off hand was xx- 2xx dmg 4% life 8 crit and some int.


1014 dps knife = ~ 400-900 raw dmg, + ~ 80-250 mojo, 500-1150 raw dmg total
no crit dmg, some intel - so say 100 or <100?

your skorn

180 crit dmg, 330 intel, 900-1350 raw dmg

vs no crit, 100 intel, 500-1150 raw dmg

Quote (&#93;GS[ Controller @ Sep 2 2012 07:38pm)
The skorn made very little difference other than, i kill thing faster now.
Absolutely no change in capabilities though.


Yes, killing speed has fuck all to do with survivability too. Thats why a 100k dps barb would make fun of me if I say I found a molten kiter elite hard, because I have to kite him for 10+ mins with my budget gear doing 30-80k hits / crits and he can bash him for 300-500k crits, resulting in barely taking any damage at all whilst I would have taken xxxxxk dmg in that time.

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Sep 4 2012 03:20pm
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Sep 4 2012 03:38pm
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1014 dps knife = ~ 400-900 raw dmg, + ~ 80-250 mojo, 500-1150 raw dmg total
no crit dmg, some intel - so say 100 or <100?

your skorn

180 crit dmg, 330 intel, 900-1350 raw dmg

vs no crit, 100 intel, 500-1150 raw dmg



Yes, killing speed has fuck all to do with survivability too. Thats why a 100k dps barb would make fun of me if I say I found a molten kiter elite hard, because I have to kite him for 10+ mins with my budget gear doing 30-80k hits / crits and he can bash him for 300-500k crits, resulting in barely taking any damage at all whilst I would have taken xxxxxk dmg in that time.


If you wan to make mature comments like that atleast, with no absurd accustion or rants, that is great.

I am very willing and open to communicate like a human being.

To respond to your post, yes a scorn does a extreme amount more dmg then the 1k on/350 off setup.

However, even though it may seem strange saying it, the added dmg (before i took advantage of even more crit %) from the skorn was not nearly as benifical as you would think.
The reasoning to that is because of the amount of speed i lost.
Speed was a very detrimental factor when i was running because it allowed me to throw bears faster and move back quicker, thus take less hits.
Yes it took about 1.5 - 2x the normal amount of bears to get the job done, but it was safer as long as you played well dodging things like motors tele's and prepared your cool downs for vortex's.

On the flip note, the video was only meant to show the playing style using these skills, and not primary meant to show the gear being used (thus why i stated this multiple times).
I myself would have liked to make the video without using the skorn, but I choose not to because it wasn't a extreme importance since while playing i realized that the skorn (again before taking advantage of more crit %) did not make a "world" of difference like you may think.

Hopefully you understand.

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Sep 4 2012 03:43pm
Quote (&#93;GS[ Controller @ Sep 4 2012 11:38pm)
If you wan to make mature comments like that atleast, with no absurd accustion or rants, that is great.

I am very willing and open to communicate like a human being.

To respond to your post, yes a scorn does a extreme amount more dmg then the 1k on/350 off setup.

However, even though it may seem strange saying it, the added dmg (before i took advantage of even more crit %) from the skorn was not nearly as benifical as you would think.
The reasoning to that is because of the amount of speed i lost.
Speed was a very detrimental factor when i was running because it allowed me to throw bears faster and move back quicker, thus take less hits.
Yes it took about 1.5 - 2x the normal amount of  bears to get the job done, but it was safer as long as you played well dodging things like motors tele's and prepared your cool downs for vortex's.

On the flip note, the video was only meant to show the playing style using these skills, and not primary meant to show the gear being used (thus why i stated this multiple times).
I myself would have liked to make the video without using the skorn, but I choose not to because it wasn't a extreme importance since while playing i realized that the skorn (again before taking advantage of more crit %) did not make a "world" of difference like you may think.

Hopefully you understand.


I never accused you of anything you didnt do.

And then I suppose as you say yourself, it'd be no problem at all to make a video with 1 mln gear

This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Sep 4 2012 03:43pm
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Sep 4 2012 06:59pm
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I never accused you of anything you didnt do.

And then I suppose as you say yourself, it'd be no problem at all to make a video with 1 mln gear


Technically you did if you are saying I didn't solo the entire game using 1m budget (including diablo).

But I decided to put myself in everyone else's shoes and I can partially see where some of you are coming from.

The d kill I asked for was simply to get the loot with a 5 stack, because I will admit I died probably 10 times before learning the exact tactics to beating him.

If you all really want I can make a video with the original gear but I would have to re buy it which isn't a problem, just a small set back.
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Sep 4 2012 09:01pm
You should update your guide / video to include just 1m of gear so people stop flaming you lol
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Sep 4 2012 09:39pm
if these ppl flaming u cant see how its possible to clear that content with the stats u listed

WITH THINGS TANKING FOR YOU.. then fuck just ignore them

you should repost saying its possible to do it with this gear/stats if you have some clue as to how to kite / use cooldowns properly i guess?l
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Sep 5 2012 01:51am
Quote (Intuition17 @ Sep 4 2012 10:01pm)
You should update your guide / video to include just 1m of gear so people stop flaming you lol


Quote (Tboner @ Sep 4 2012 10:39pm)
if these ppl flaming u cant see how its possible to clear that content with the stats u listed

WITH THINGS TANKING FOR YOU.. then fuck just ignore them

you should repost saying its possible to do it with this gear/stats if you have some clue as to how to kite / use cooldowns properly i guess?l


It's ok hopefully it was cleared up.
I would like the thread to continue on a more positive note.
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Sep 5 2012 03:34pm
Anyone who offers criticism is automatically jealous/flaming you.
Ok.
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