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Oct 1 2010 02:47pm
Quote (josh2234 @ Sep 10 2010 12:01am)
The reason im saying this is, I dont want Diablo 3 to end up like Diablo 2.  I.E, scammmers,bots,cheat,hacks,dupes,spam,non english speakin people

solve the problems such as cheaters,  hacks, gold farmers wtf ever......

guild wars


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you think ppl who "can affort" 15-20$/m would not scam? would not use bots/hacks? would not spam? and the most laughable point - speaking english, everyone who can't affort/wouldn't pay 20$/month can't speak english? lolo
yes, p2p solve all theese problems "ofc" - WoW also has hacks/bots, and farming came just to MMORPGs

and since you compare D2/3 with guildwars i can't take you serious - it's a complete different genre


and for shops it will stay profitable, if it's free or not, even if it would be 50$/month they would make lots of $$ - your point is senseless

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Oct 1 2010 02:55pm
Quote (josh2234 @ Sep 9 2010 05:01pm)
Ok guys let get this straight.

If you QQ about paying 10$-15$ a month to pay to play for a game, I think your living in like 1995 first of all.

The reason im saying this is, I dont want Diablo 3 to end up like Diablo 2. I.E, scammmers,bots,cheat,hacks,dupes,spam,non english speakin people who are geting paid 1$ a week in a sweatshop because we want that bad ass item.

Ill go into detail. When a company stops selling there game in mass amounts, they no longer are making decent $$ to support that game, whatever it may be. So charging a small amount every month gives them ability to support it, and solve the problems such as cheaters, viruses, hacks, gold farmers wtf ever...... AND ADD NEW CONTENT, AND FIX THE OLD OFC :)

I personally also wouldnt want the guild wars approach either,...... coming out with an expansion every time someone cries so they can support there non paying game.

If Diablo 3 is not pay to play, I give it a few months before it turns into the shit hole that d2 did.
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Oct 1 2010 03:00pm
Quote (josh2234 @ 10 Sep 2010 01:01)
Ok guys let get this straight.

If you QQ about paying 10$-15$ a month to pay to play for a game, I think your living in like 1995 first of all.

The reason im saying this is, I dont want Diablo 3 to end up like Diablo 2.  I.E, scammmers,bots,cheat,hacks,dupes,spam,non english speakin people who are geting paid 1$ a week in a sweatshop because we want that bad ass item.

Ill go into detail.  When a company stops selling there game in mass amounts, they no longer are making decent $$ to support that game, whatever it may be. So charging a small amount every month gives them ability to support it, and solve the problems such as cheaters, viruses, hacks, gold farmers wtf ever...... AND ADD NEW CONTENT, AND FIX THE OLD OFC :)

I personally also wouldnt want the guild wars approach either,...... coming out with an expansion every time someone cries so they can support there non paying game.

If Diablo 3 is not pay to play, I give it a few months before it turns into the shit hole that d2 did.

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Play in closed "societies"? Its not an mmorpg, so np
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Oct 1 2010 03:25pm
Quote (Kunim @ Oct 1 2010 09:24pm)
I love how the only period in this entire post was used incorrectly. Lol

Games can make money without pay to play. As stated before, some games, like your example of Guild Wars, have in-game stores that cost real world cash and allow for enough income over the years to keep up mantenaince. I also don't believe that pay to play would do anything to stop bots, and especially not scammers, etc.


maybe the only period on my text was used incorrectly but at least i have a valid point in everything i sayed in it :)
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Oct 1 2010 04:40pm
I agree with it being P2P.

The people arguing that it will lose more players than it will gain are obviously wrong. Whether it is P2P or not, D3 will have more players than D1/D2 ever did, mainly coming from the players of WoW I believe. Having to pay will not decrease spam bots, hackers or anything of the sort so I see no valid point in that area of discussion.

The main reason I enjoy P2P is the fact that it will have less childish players. Yes, there will always be a lot of immaturity in P2P games but not nearly as much which is always good in my eyes.

Lastly, Diablo 3 will most likely not be P2P unfortunately. They will still be making a lot of money from WoW, especially with the release of Cataclysm.
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Oct 1 2010 04:56pm
Quote (babyruth @ Oct 1 2010 11:40pm)
I agree with it being P2P.

The people arguing that it will lose more players than it will gain are obviously wrong.  Whether it is P2P or not, D3 will have more players than D1/D2 ever did, mainly coming from the players of WoW I believe.  Having to pay will not decrease spam bots, hackers or anything of the sort so I see no valid point in that area of discussion.

The main reason I enjoy P2P is the fact that it will have less childish players.  Yes, there will always be a lot of immaturity in P2P games but not nearly as much which is always good in my eyes.

Lastly, Diablo 3 will most likely not be P2P unfortunately.  They will still be making a lot of money from WoW, especially with the release of Cataclysm.


multi is locked... Thats all i ve to say
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Oct 1 2010 05:11pm
Quote (Phuck @ 10 Sep 2010 00:03)
I don't think you realize the money mountain blizzard is already sitting on, they don't NEED to charge monthly to support d2.  Hell, just a $25 MOUNT in wow made more than quite a few AAA games ffs.


this.

besides they said its gonna be free, and since they are on it for 10 years, i doubt that they will leave bots/cheaters alone, just srsly, all this work for nothing? nooo i dont think so

in my personal and humble opinion, the d3 game will be such a success that it won't need any pay2play bullshit like wow does, for real.

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Oct 1 2010 05:34pm
Quote (josh2234 @ Sep 9 2010 06:01pm)
Ok guys let get this straight.

If you QQ about paying 10$-15$ a month to pay to play for a game, I think your living in like 1995 first of all.

The reason im saying this is, I dont want Diablo 3 to end up like Diablo 2.  I.E, scammmers,bots,cheat,hacks,dupes,spam,non english speakin people who are geting paid 1$ a week in a sweatshop because we want that bad ass item.


Ill go into detail.  When a company stops selling there game in mass amounts, they no longer are making decent $$ to support that game, whatever it may be. So charging a small amount every month gives them ability to support it, and solve the problems such as cheaters, viruses, hacks, gold farmers wtf ever...... AND ADD NEW CONTENT, AND FIX THE OLD OFC :)

I personally also wouldnt want the guild wars approach either,...... coming out with an expansion every time someone cries so they can support there non paying game.

If Diablo 3 is not pay to play, I give it a few months before it turns into the shit hole that d2 did.

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WoW and FFXI are pay to play and they have some of the worst botters/item-currency sellers i have ever seen. I played ffxi for 6 years and it was HORRIBLE. Truly real bad. I the company takeover of games like that is just part of the new gaming era and somehow there needs to be something done about it. FFXI tried to make it illegal to sell anything pixel from the game because it is property of Square Enix and people just found loopholes around that.

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Oct 1 2010 07:43pm
Quote (muert0 @ Oct 1 2010 01:55pm)
Because they don't have employs to pay and servers just fix themselves. You don't know wtf you are talking about.


Brilliant counter point. Should I expect the rest of the peanut gallery to shower me with the obvious? Going to break the news to me that the world doesn't run on love?

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Oct 2 2010 12:53am
its not just a online game though, the thing is it is a solo based game with co-operative online play, if it were to be pay to play it would only be for the online aspect, and just like cod etc alot of people wouldnt bother as they can play it offline, i think that it shouldnt be p2p cause you buy it to play off line with the added bonus of online play.
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