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Jan 6 2013 07:40pm
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2 of your IAS items are going to waste - ditch IAS on amulet, and get 7.5+CC and 60+CHD , str, vita, and xx-xx dmg if u can afford all of that

then u can ditch one more IAS item.. id say one of the rings? for a 4+cc / CHD / same stats as you have..

OR you could keep your IAS items and get 4 more ias - then you are at the 2.86 breakpoint.. but i really dont suggest this unless you are rich as hell and can afford really nice trifecta ring(s), ammy




actually i'm sitting comfortably at 2.5/2.5 in normal form and 2.86/2.86 in wotb form (mace + 0.25 ef).
i'm liking the fast ticks, kinda addicted to it. in the future if i want to swap out the rings for hellfire + leoric and maintain the speed, i have no choice but to get lacunis and witching hour.
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Jan 6 2013 08:30pm
Quote (Kundrumb @ Jan 6 2013 06:40pm)
actually i'm sitting comfortably at 2.5/2.5 in normal form and 2.86/2.86 in wotb form (mace + 0.25 ef).
i'm liking the fast ticks, kinda addicted to it. in the future if i want to swap out the rings for hellfire + leoric and maintain the speed, i have no choice but to get lacunis and witching hour.


profile must not be updated then.. i count 54 ias and you need 58 for bp

even with chantress still 1 ias short i think.. and its not good to rely on chantress for ias bp really because they do die sometimes and if u ever decide to group you wont want BP

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Jan 6 2013 08:49pm
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profile must not be updated then.. i count 54 ias and you need 58 for bp

even with chantress still 1 ias short i think.. and its not good to rely on chantress for ias bp really because they do die sometimes and if u ever decide to group you wont want BP


indeed i rely on chantress to reach that bp. i use this calc http://theasiangamer.com/d3-damage-calculator/
i didn't know about the no-follower thing when playing in group lol. maybe i'll use asheara's boots or boj anglers when playing in a group. thanks a lot.

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Jan 7 2013 09:50am
Quote (Kundrumb @ Jan 6 2013 10:49pm)
indeed i rely on chantress to reach that bp. i use this calc http://theasiangamer.com/d3-damage-calculator/
i didn't know about the no-follower thing when playing in group lol. maybe i'll use asheara's boots or boj anglers when playing in a group. thanks a lot.


Since we're not sure about how Blizzard rounds, we always round up to calculate ias needed. With a 1.45 EF, you need 57.04% ias without enchantress (2.85715/1.45 - 1.4), so the suggestion is usually 58% to be absolutely sure. Your onscreen number may not reflect your actual aps since Blizzard is rounding to 2 decimal places to display. For instance, if you had 2.85666 aps, Blizzard would (likely) display that as 2.86 on your screen, when the breakpoint is really 2.85715. It's hard to be sure without testing, so go with it if you feel comfortable.

I've also played around with the 2.86 bp for a few weeks and while it's fun, you tend to gimp your dps too much to achieve it, unless you have very expensive trifectas in the relevant slots. I've since moved down to 2.50 bp and removed ias from my rings, ammy, and gloves and replaced it with chd, which helped my dps tremendously. You can achieve 2.50 with ias from mempo, lacunis, inna's pants, and 1 more 8-9% ias piece (I use a witching hour, but not using IK belt is another expensive headache on top of the expense of the witching hour itself).
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Quote (fentr @ Jan 7 2013 08:50am)
Since we're not sure about how Blizzard rounds, we always round up to calculate ias needed.  With a 1.45 EF, you need 57.04% ias without enchantress (2.85715/1.45 - 1.4), so the suggestion is usually 58% to be absolutely sure.  Your onscreen number may not reflect your actual aps since Blizzard is rounding to 2 decimal places to display.  For instance, if you had 2.85666 aps, Blizzard would (likely) display that as 2.86 on your screen, when the breakpoint is really 2.85715.  It's hard to be sure without testing, so go with it if you feel comfortable.

I've also played around with the 2.86 bp for a few weeks and while it's fun, you tend to gimp your dps too much to achieve it, unless you have very expensive trifectas in the relevant slots.  I've since moved down to 2.50 bp and removed ias from my rings, ammy, and gloves and replaced it with chd, which helped my dps tremendously.  You can achieve 2.50 with ias from mempo, lacunis, inna's pants, and 1 more 8-9% ias piece (I use a witching hour, but not using IK belt is another expensive headache on top of the expense of the witching hour itself).


exactly :) well said

yea 2.86 is only for the rich rich rich folk
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Jan 7 2013 03:11pm
what if my OH have 100% crit dmg.. socket.. 100--400 cold dmg...2.90 LS... 167 str.. sword ??? 600+ dps
using ef MH.. no soj..
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Jan 7 2013 03:37pm
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what if my OH have 100% crit dmg.. socket.. 100--400 cold dmg...2.90 LS... 167 str.. sword ??? 600+ dps
using ef MH.. no soj..


then you should be hitting 2.86 breakpoint on your sword, 2.5 on mainhand
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Jan 7 2013 03:49pm
should i replace it with a raw dmg oh ?

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Jan 7 2013 04:07pm
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should i replace it with a raw dmg oh ?


depends on your other gear.. if you dont need lifesteal from weapons then yes

socket, CHD, str, around 800dps or higher the better, sword

but with lifesteal on sword opens up a free passive slot.. and that can be very helpful.. the armor passives boost your EHP a lot!

This post was edited by Tboner on Jan 7 2013 04:09pm
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Jan 7 2013 07:40pm
great info thanks i just had a question or two
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Balrogblade-1206/hero/15248898
theres my barb i just got a new ammy with 5% ias before wraith my aps is 2.22 how do i find out if its the 2.22222 or 2.22223?
anyways my aps was 2.51 wraithed before the ammy so idk if i should bother think its 2.58 now or somthing
second question i was thinking of upgrading my pants first or wepons what do you suggest? possibly shoulders and ammy to not to sure any advice would help thanks
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