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Dec 3 2012 09:08am
howcome demon hunters are so weak and have no spectacular builds?

like, they have the fastest weapon ingame! 1-handed crossbow
they even have offhand whit 20attack speed

i maxed the attack speed of my dh-tester
9*9ias item / 7ias boots / 20ias quiver / 20ias one handed crossbow
1.6*1.2*2.08=4 aps
even took 50%crit chance whit it

tested:
stun granades, even at 4aps, this stuns crap,
nightstalker, all the gear in the world, you not get more then 3disipline per sec from it
smoke screan, even if infinite disapline, the cooldown and timing of this skill makes it 25%effective
you simply not have any good skill benefits from aps or crit chance, the proc rates are poor as hell

not seen a inpressive dh, since the 1.03tank dh, that could leave game(afk 10sec)at full life, when surounded bye 4elite packs,
not telling it should be somekinda super tank, but if tanking is not a option, why not get somthing spectacular instead? like wd/wizz can do, like infinite meteor shower/dogs spam/zoo spam
they not have any special tricks, like the wicked wind 300%aps bonus
patch changes like the is no tomorrow for dh, but...
making a demon hunter is like stacking crit chance and crit damage on my witch doctor
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Dec 3 2012 09:16am
i'm at 3.04 APS, with Bolas - Volatile Explosives + Traps
i'm having a lot of fun, rooms simply explode in millions pixels when i open fire (and after the 1 sec delay), vaulting here and there and making a lot of Ka-BooMs!
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Dec 4 2012 09:21am
How much EHP & DPS should a DH have to play "fluently" MP5 ---> MP7
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Dec 4 2012 09:47am
Quote (Shirl86 @ Dec 4 2012 03:21pm)
How much EHP & DPS should a DH have to play "fluently" MP5 ---> MP7


http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jackherrer-2632/hero/128567

can do mp 10 but not so fluently :P

aim for 150 k unbuffed dps
and 350k ehp

and you should be ok
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Dec 4 2012 10:25am
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kamil1991-2386/hero/22330105

btag not updated, now i have 50dex jools in armor and pants and 54dex in amu and my weapon i calamity 1290 100cd 100+vita (dont want to change weapon now)

Im thinking what should i upgrade next for 20-30m. Maybe a Mempo? For that price i can get it with 180+dex 80+vita 75+all ress and ofc %life (now i have 58.5cc so dont need more). But with mempo i will lose this 20disc bonus with is nice, especiali for ubers.
If you agree with me about mempo, than what after that? Maybe a wiching hour for ~50m or better gloves?
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Dec 5 2012 02:31am
Quote (jackherer @ Dec 4 2012 05:47pm)
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jackherrer-2632/hero/128567

can do mp 10 but not so fluently :P

aim for 150 k unbuffed dps
and 350k ehp

and you should be ok


k thx,
i got the 150k unbuffed dps
will work on ehp... got 205k ehp // 330k ehp /w dodge

Quote (Kamilek15 @ Dec 4 2012 06:25pm)
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kamil1991-2386/hero/22330105

btag not updated, now i have 50dex jools in armor and pants and 54dex in amu and my weapon i calamity 1290 100cd 100+vita (dont want to change weapon now)

Im thinking what should i upgrade next for 20-30m. Maybe a Mempo? For that price i can get it with 180+dex 80+vita 75+all ress and ofc %life (now i have 58.5cc so dont need more). But with mempo i will lose this 20disc bonus with is nice, especiali for ubers.
If you agree with me about mempo, than what after that? Maybe a wiching hour for ~50m or better gloves?


Inna's > WH imho... and cheaper
Anyway i would go for the mempo yeah... just switch the rune on prep to focused mind (u'll get 45 disc instead of 50 u had and anyway better than 30 u would get if u keep using backup plan), with Nightstalker that's optimal! (telling from self experience)

This post was edited by Shirl86 on Dec 5 2012 02:35am
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Dec 5 2012 02:39am
Quote (Tommyvv @ Dec 3 2012 09:08am)
howcome demon hunters are so weak and have no spectacular builds?

like, they have the fastest weapon ingame! 1-handed crossbow
they even have offhand whit 20attack speed

i maxed the attack speed of my dh-tester
9*9ias item / 7ias boots / 20ias quiver / 20ias one handed crossbow
1.6*1.2*2.08=4 aps
even took 50%crit chance whit it

tested:
stun granades, even at 4aps, this stuns crap,
nightstalker, all the gear in the world, you not get more then 3disipline per sec from it
smoke screan, even if infinite disapline, the cooldown and timing of this skill makes it 25%effective
you simply not have any good skill benefits from aps or crit chance, the proc rates are poor as hell

not seen a inpressive dh, since the 1.03tank dh, that could leave game(afk 10sec)at full life, when surounded bye 4elite packs,
not telling it should be somekinda super tank, but if tanking is not a option, why not get somthing spectacular instead? like wd/wizz can do, like infinite meteor shower/dogs spam/zoo spam
they not have any special tricks, like the wicked wind 300%aps bonus
patch changes like the is no tomorrow for dh, but...
making a demon hunter is like stacking crit chance and crit damage on my witch doctor


1) They take 30% more damage which is a lot
2) APS isn't everything, you need balance among dps and ehp
3) Smokescreen isn't needed as much as before
4) There are plenty of DHs that can tank a shit ton, mine for example has a very good balance (nearly 700k ehp and 170k unbuffed dps), and there are are others with a lot less stats than those that are face-tanking mp7+

Quote (Kamilek15 @ Dec 4 2012 10:25am)
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kamil1991-2386/hero/22330105

btag not updated, now i have 50dex jools in armor and pants and 54dex in amu and my weapon i calamity 1290 100cd 100+vita (dont want to change weapon now)

Im thinking what should i upgrade next for 20-30m. Maybe a Mempo? For that price i can get it with 180+dex 80+vita 75+all ress and ofc %life (now i have 58.5cc so dont need more). But with mempo i will lose this 20disc bonus with is nice, especiali for ubers.
If you agree with me about mempo, than what after that? Maybe a wiching hour for ~50m or better gloves?


Craft a better hellfire ring man, that thing is not too good :p and ya a mempos would be a nice upgrade.
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Dec 5 2012 03:11am
Quote (Shamx @ 5 Dec 2012 06:39)
1) They take 30% more damage which is a lot
2) APS isn't everything, you need balance among dps and ehp
3) Smokescreen isn't needed as much as before
4) There are plenty of DHs that can tank a shit ton, mine for example has a very good balance (nearly 700k ehp and 170k unbuffed dps), and there are are others with a lot less stats than those that are face-tanking mp7+


Do u use legacy nats?

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Dec 5 2012 06:22am
Quote (Shamx @ 5 Dec 2012 09:39)
1) They take 30% more damage which is a lot
2) APS isn't everything, you need balance among dps and ehp
3) Smokescreen isn't needed as much as before
4) There are plenty of DHs that can tank a shit ton, mine for example has a very good balance (nearly 700k ehp and 170k unbuffed dps), and there are are others with a lot less stats than those that are face-tanking mp7+



Craft a better hellfire ring man, that thing is not too good :p and ya a mempos would be a nice upgrade.


im working on it, but i dont have luck with ubers ^_^
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Dec 5 2012 11:53am
hi, i have 11kk and i dont know what to buy. i want have high dps DH but not that squishy. thanks

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/AvE-2535/hero/22744345
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