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Sep 19 2012 02:12am
if your monk uses life steal it might be worth noting that using submission will mean less hp regen
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Sep 19 2012 02:16am
Quote (Zodiac @ Sep 19 2012 04:12am)
if your monk uses life steal it might be worth noting that using submission will mean less hp regen


does submission not work with life steal?

if so id think youd get more regen as it effects a much larger area then any of the other monk attacks.

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Sep 19 2012 02:25am
Quote (Ylem122 @ Sep 19 2012 05:07pm)
im not suggesting you dont use sweeping.

lets do a full calculation, overawe has a constant 24% more dmg. 10.8-21.6 with sweeping winds 26.4-52.8 with FOT main attack, 8.4-16.8 with FOT/TC aoe

total 45.6-91.2 extra weapon dmg = 68.4 average

now moc/submission has a constant 12% more dmg to enemies, 29.12-32.24 from submission if it is 26%, 5.4-10.8 from sweeping winds, 13.2-26.4 for fot main attack, 4.2-8.4 for fot/tc aoe

total 51.92-77.84 =64.88 average



so overawe beats out submission by 4% more average weapon dmg, so in conclusion it seems liek if all you do with your spirit is spam mantra, overawe is a better choice, but if you use something like tempest rush or wave of light instead of spaming your mantra MOC submisson is possibly the better choice as far as dmg per spirit spent is concerned.


can submission crit? did u also count the cyclones which proc from sweeping winds? if the damage comes from two sources wont it be mitigated twice as well?

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Sep 19 2012 02:34am
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can submission crit? did u also count the cyclones which proc from sweeping winds?


as its random im not sure how to calculate that in, it would probly be about 3.6% more average weapon dmg considering all thigns equal, though submission would still have about a 3% higher constant added weapon dmg.

not sure if it can crit, this and if it works with life steal are some big factors.

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Sep 19 2012 02:51am
submission doesnt crit. i didnt see any yellow numbers.
couldnt tell if life steal worked with it. (id assume it should since life steal works with just about every attack in the game?)
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Sep 19 2012 03:44am
Quote (ButtPirate7 @ Sep 19 2012 06:51pm)
submission doesnt crit. i didnt see any yellow numbers.
couldnt tell if life steal worked with it. (id assume it should since life steal works with just about every attack in the game?)


Just let a white mob hit you and see if you're gaining any life back.
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Sep 19 2012 04:56am
I posted in here a while ago asking what I should improve and you said new armor than a new weapon, and now I've done both I'm wondering what to improve now to make act 3 farming easier!

I only really die to molten elites, or those baneling things in keep depths level 2, so I guess to make it easier I should increase my damage output? but should I get more dps weapons, or increase my dex on my items? :D

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Sep 19 2012 06:03am
Quote (OoOpeterOoO @ Sep 19 2012 02:56am)
I posted in here a while ago asking what I should improve and you said new armor than a new weapon, and now I've done both I'm wondering what to improve now to make act 3 farming easier!

I only really die to molten elites, or those baneling things in keep depths level 2, so I guess to make it easier I should increase my damage output? but should I get more dps weapons, or increase my dex on my items? :D

Thanks

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Shoulders, helm, rings next. Get ASI on rings, and more stacked res on shoulders and helm. Your res is very low. And you might as well replace the ammy since you clearly aren't using the LoH. Get one with better stats and no LoH
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Sep 19 2012 06:22am
Has MOC with overawe never display on the character sheet? just noticing this now. I thoughgt it used to show the jump in dps
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Sep 19 2012 06:35am
Quote (defcone @ Sep 19 2012 05:44am)
Just let a white mob hit you and see if you're gaining any life back.


no crit but it does work with life leech, with no crit it is kinda shitty though.
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