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Jan 25 2013 11:53pm
Quote (chrisc995 @ Jan 25 2013 07:42pm)
alltho i cant call it BM wd's skills are UBER GAY especiialy vs melle


corpse spiders- caster doesnt have to be on the same screen+ they follow u so far, dont attack clones

Haunt- caster doesnt have to be on same screen, un-breakable dot

Fear- 4.5 second fear ( only cc breaker I have is serenity) where u can haunt and coprse spider a screen away

hex=untargatable, un ccable chicken for 4 seconds, than 3 seconds, than 2 seconds

and then even if u do manage to kill them, with pretty much either being feared or chickened 80-90% of the time, and being attacked from off screen
they get a free life, a spirit walk away and then can start there barrage again.

im NOT gonna cry for skill bans
im NOT gona say that wd's are BM
alltho im not really sure what everyone else thinks, i know i wont be dueling a wd on a melle char anymore, its an uphill battle thats 90% of the time unwinnable. u shouldnt disagree with me until u have pvpd a wd on a melle char :(


I agree they are overpowered, sort of the paladins of d2 when dueling.
However we do need to test as much as possible with all builds vs them to make sure they are still beatable, thus banning any skills cannot happen.
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Jan 25 2013 11:56pm
Quote (jacksonxxx @ Jan 25 2013 09:21pm)
Again, it should be the same as d2 a perfect small charm could go to 1k fg each where as a plain 15 lifers would be like 5fg
200x the price for a huge increase! Exactly like the marquise.
I just don't see the difference again if someone feels that their lld is worth a 110mil upgrade that person should be allowed to use that gem!


it cant happen with marquise so thats out of the question, look at the ruby (150-150 would make you do about 5k+ dps)

as for the others, for subtle play we will use flawless squares, and if someone insists on using higher then we need to show that majority here rules its better off staying at flawless.


Again if we made a poll, regardless of the reasoning it would rule - 90+ % flawless square and 10 or less % anything else.
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Jan 26 2013 12:01am
Quote (jacksonxxx @ Jan 25 2013 11:31pm)
1 ruby in the weapon doesn't even come close to a hamburger or spectrum, Calculate it.


yes it does, it comes to almost the same dps as one actually


a dagger with 1.50 aps 16-44 dmg base, 166-194 with marquise

360/2 = 180 x 1.5 = 270 dps

so your far into the range of ilvl63 dmg weps, and far far out of normal dmg weps.


The highest dmg i was able to get in any lld wep with squares was a bow with 100 dmg and its basically perfect, so a marquise ruby would add 170 more than even that.

If any gem were definitively getting a ban, its a marquise ruby.


But i understand your logic on the other gems, don't ban because of people being less funded or for just sheer ease of access, but when it comes down to it majority here rules its better off at flawless square.



Quote (]GS[ Controller @ Jan 25 2013 02:50pm)
Very important - everyone please post with your support vouching that this needs to be changed


WE GET XP FOR KILLING MINIONS AND PLAYERS WHILE DUELING!!!

vouch here please

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7758825838#1


Here is the link to vouch that we need xp removed from llding, please vouch here if you see this and havn't already.

e/ lol i just triple posted

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yes it does, it comes to almost the same dps as one actually


a dagger with 1.50 aps 16-44 dmg base, 166-194 with marquise

360/2 = 180 x 1.5 = 270 dps

so your far into the range of ilvl63 dmg weps, and far far out of normal dmg weps.


The highest dmg i was able to get in any lld wep with squares was a bow with 100 dmg and its basically perfect, so a marquise ruby would add 170 more than even that.

If any gem were definitively getting a ban, its a marquise ruby.


But i understand your logic on the other gems, don't ban because of people being less funded or for just sheer ease of access, but when it comes down to it majority here rules its better off at flawless square.





Here is the link to vouch that we need xp removed from llding, please vouch here if you see this and havn't already.

e/ lol i just triple posted


lets go in d2 and take out charms only 15 lifers allowed, hate to say it like that buts its exactly the same loll
20ed 15 max, 20 maxers, 4-15 jewels or even 20ed/-req all these jewels were CRAZY expensive and would make you 100000x better than your opponent but you could still die..
and spectrum and burger go way past 270dps and they arent account bound

This post was edited by jacksonxxx on Jan 26 2013 03:48am
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Quote (jacksonxxx @ Jan 26 2013 04:45am)
lets go in d2 and take out charms only 15 lifers allowed, hate to say it like that buts its exactly the same loll
20ed 15 max, 20 maxers, 4-15 jewels or even 20ed/-req all these jewels were CRAZY expensive and would make you 100000x better than your opponent but you could still die..
and spectrum and burger go way past 270dps and they arent account bound


No, actually its like using 15 maxers vs using 40 maxers on a character in terms of mathematics if you include marquise ruby.



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Quote (]GS[ Controller @ Jan 26 2013 06:31am)
No, actually its like using 15 maxers vs using 40 maxers on a character in terms of mathematics if you include marquise ruby.


all im saying lld will be a lot less interesting if everyone is the same
Flawless Square.

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Jan 26 2013 05:37am
Quote (jacksonxxx @ Jan 26 2013 06:21am)
all im saying lld will be a lot less interesting if everyone is the same
Flawless Square.


I agree it may be a slight hender in its flavor so to speak but not a lot. But majority rules. So I must stay out of it.

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Jan 26 2013 07:29am
did any of u get those awesome pants that i was bidding on, 70 dex like 110 vit, 2 socket?
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Quote (chrisc995 @ Jan 26 2013 08:29am)
did any of u get those awesome pants that i was bidding on, 70 dex like 110 vit, 2 socket?


Not sure but there is a dirty ass 5-10 int amulet on the ah right now. I'm not gonna bid since I have a few decent ones already
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