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Sep 18 2012 10:48pm
Quote (MrDictatoHead @ Sep 18 2012 08:48pm)
Q1 - Resolve. There's a reason they're nerfing it. 25% raw reduction is crazy... and it's off any damage you deal (sweeping winds? cyclones?) Personally, I feel dodge is not so important as I usually die to molten/desecrator which cannot be dodged. With the 1000 LOH that you have, resolve will increase the effective hit points of each HP you gain. To get exact results, plug it into pathologic's monk spreadsheet (google it). I don't know about your attack speed, but if it's close to 2, it'll take about 3 seconds of attacking with FoT to generate the spirit for a mantra activation...

Q2 - 25% of 250% = 62.5%, 22% of 280% = 61.5%, not only does the first option let you crit more, it also gives you more dps... 25% for sure.


Thanks for your advice
I'll use resolve ..... and probably try out GP.

And keep 25% + 250cd.


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Sep 18 2012 10:54pm
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/zfx-1965/hero/2675976

not the best monk obviously.. far from it, but very fun/efficient at what she does! feel free to ask any questions
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Sep 19 2012 12:11am
Quote (faenix @ Sep 18 2012 08:54pm)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/zfx-1965/hero/2675976

not the best monk obviously.. far from it, but very fun/efficient at what she does! feel free to ask any questions


Question: attack speed instead of complete 24% damage increase? I mean I could see getting out 8% more cyclones given a 100% crit chance but...you're still out 20+% damage. Is the damage reflect from this really doing enough to constitute the opportunity cost of passing up 24/48?
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Sep 19 2012 12:13am
Quote (jinshin85 @ Sep 18 2012 05:44pm)
Here you go. Check it out.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/marcuscho-1356/hero/16742599

Just to add, all the items were bought as BUYOUT. No bidding at all.

And I spent about 40mins getting everything. So, if anyone has about 10-15mil in their account, they can make something like this monk above.

And this is my monk. I spent probably around 140mil. Two Inna sets were around 70mil. :) I had my monk for like 3 months already. My favorite character!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KimSulki84-1308/hero/7645093


Thanks for the link, pretty similar gear to mine except a lot of mine is better...and some of it is worse. This guy hasn't cleared a2 inferno..?

I think maybe I just need to add attack speed wherever I can and maybe try to pick up a good offhand. And I got a new belt..

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kylezo-1560/hero/933168
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Sep 19 2012 12:20am
whats your guys opinion as far as submission vs overawe in solo?

clearly overawe helps out tons in coop play, as the constant 12% more dmg helps every one with the peack 24% more dmg being a large boost as well.

but in solo your the only one doing dmg, submission gives 26% weapon dmg to a very large area constantly+ the 12/24 % more dmg to monsters, for me with 80k dps thats nearly 10k ever half second.

id also be interested in testing to see if LL works with submission.

opinions?

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Sep 19 2012 12:21am
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Sep 19 2012 12:36am
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whats your guys opinion as far as submission vs overawe in solo?

clearly overawe helps out tons in coop play, as the constant 12% more dmg helps every one with the peack 24% more dmg being a large boost as well.

but in solo your the only one doing dmg, submission gives 26% weapon dmg to a very large area constantly+ the 12/24 % more dmg to monsters, for me with 80k dps thats nearly 10k ever half second.

id also be interested in testing to see if LL works with submission.

opinions?


The 12% extra damage is replaced by the 12% weapon damage per second? Unless you attack slower than 1 attack per second, you'd be doing lesser damage already not counting the extra damage sweeping winds does.
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Sep 19 2012 12:39am
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The 12% extra damage is replaced by the 12% weapon damage per second? Unless you attack slower than 1 attack per second, you'd be doing lesser damage already not counting the extra damage sweeping winds does.


im pretty sure its 26% per second since the last patch.

though as the site is blocked for me at work i cant confirm it, it may only be 23%

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im pretty sure its 26% per second since the last patch.


Still, the 24% extra from sweeping winds lost will definitely make overawe the better choice. Try running an act3 run without sweeping winds and you will see how much dps you gain from sweeping winds.
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Sep 19 2012 01:07am
Quote (defcone @ Sep 19 2012 02:45am)
Still, the 24% extra from sweeping winds lost will definitely make overawe the better choice. Try running an act3 run without sweeping winds and you will see how much dps you gain from sweeping winds.


im not suggesting you dont use sweeping.

lets do a full calculation, overawe has a constant 24% more dmg. 10.8-21.6 with sweeping winds 26.4-52.8 with FOT main attack, 8.4-16.8 with FOT/TC aoe

total 45.6-91.2 extra weapon dmg = 68.4 average

now moc/submission has a constant 12% more dmg to enemies, 29.12-32.24 from submission if it is 26%, 5.4-10.8 from sweeping winds, 13.2-26.4 for fot main attack, 4.2-8.4 for fot/tc aoe

total 51.92-77.84 =64.88 average



so overawe beats out submission by 4% more average weapon dmg, so in conclusion it seems liek if all you do with your spirit is spam mantra, overawe is a better choice, but if you use something like tempest rush or wave of light instead of spaming your mantra MOC submisson is possibly the better choice as far as dmg per spirit spent is concerned.

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Quote (Ylem122 @ Sep 18 2012 09:07pm)
im not suggesting you dont use sweeping.

lets do a full calculation, overawe has a constant 24% more dmg. 10.8-21.6 with sweeping winds 26.4-52.8 with FOT main attack, 8.4-16.8 with FOT/TC aoe

total 45.6-91.2 extra weapon dmg = 68.4 average

now moc/submission has a constant 12% more dmg to enemies, 29.12-32.24 from submission if it is 26%, 5.4-10.8 from sweeping winds, 13.2-26.4 for fot main attack, 4.2-8.4 for fot/tc aoe

total 51.92-77.84 =64.88 average



so overawe beats out submission by 4% more average weapon dmg, so in conclusion it seems liek if all you do with your spirit is spam mantra, overawe is a better choice, but if you use something like tempest rush or wave of light instead of spaming your mantra MOC submisson is possibly the better choice as far as dmg per spirit spent is concerned.

when i break past the 100k unbuff dps mark, im a switch to submission just so i can be lazy at times lol.

question though i have regarding items that give +% xxx elemental dam like WKL and Sojs, etc. Do you have to have your weapons to be non elemental dam (like the ones that are just raw + min to max dam) or if you wore any old + elemental min to max weapon (like an arcane weapon for example), would you still get the WKL/soj boost to your dam? (i know it wont show on your dps screen) but i was testing this with a non elemental weap and a fire elemental weapon and i didnt really knowtice any difference so i assume the +x% elemental dam applies to any weapon dam type?

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