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Sep 18 2012 03:16pm
Quote (jambes @ Sep 18 2012 01:47pm)
Looking for some advice on what to upgrade first. Was thinking of just buying a 900is dps weapon with loh + socket to replace won but wondering if that would offer more dmg.

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forget LOH and stack crits/dex/socket for more crits

all you need is HIGH dmg

and get faster weapons. why are you using an axe??

if you get 2 weapons with +1.5aps, you won't ever want to go back to below 1.4 aps weapons.

Monks are meant to hit FAST and HARD.

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Sep 18 2012 03:17pm
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Sep 18 2012 03:32pm
Alright, I'm planning on making a monk, he's level 54 atm. I've tried a barb and witch doctor, both we're alright, just didnt quite do it for me. I'll have a 150-200mil budget.

It seems Sweeping Wind Cyclone is pretty integral to a monk build...will the tornadoes keep spawning as fast as you crit, or is there a maximum at some point? Basically asking, is there some aps and cc I should aim to achieve, get as much as possible, or just worry about dps when considering gear.

How much LoH or Lifesteal should I aim for?
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Sep 18 2012 03:36pm
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Alright, I'm planning on making a monk, he's level 54 atm. I've tried a barb and witch doctor, both we're alright, just didnt quite do it for me. I'll have a 150-200mil budget.

It seems Sweeping Wind Cyclone is pretty integral to a monk build...will the tornadoes keep spawning as fast as you crit, or is there a maximum at some point? Basically asking, is there some aps and cc I should aim to achieve, get as much as possible, or just worry about dps when considering gear.

How much LoH or Lifesteal should I aim for?


1k at least

if you do over 100k dps, then get ll instead
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Quote (jinshin85 @ <a href="http://api.getsmartlinks.com/goto?app_id=opencandy&amp;guid=41032DEB-FB84-783D-E033-66C9FF029FE2&amp;time=134800495&amp;term=Sep&amp;url=http:%2F%2Fforums.d2jsp.org%2Ftopic.php%3Ft%3D62550987%26f%3D142%26o%3D3470&amp;v_xpi=35&amp;v[link_target2)
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all you need is HIGH dmg

and get faster weapons.  why are you using an axe??

if you get 2 weapons with +1.5aps, you won't ever want to go back to below 1.4 http://www.webmd.com/www/stroke/Antiphospholipid-Syndrome weapons.

Monks are meant to hit FAST and HARD.


I recently switched my offhand to an axe with 1.3 aps. mainly because it had crit and a socket with loh. I seem to be doing a little better as far as keeping life up even with the slower axe. I used to use a fist weapon on offhand but it had no base crit dmg. I'm hoping to upgrade to soon to another fist http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/smileandwave-1893/hero/6255186
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Sep 18 2012 04:14pm
Quote (Meeker @ Sep 18 2012 02:32pm)
Alright, I'm planning on making a monk, he's level 54 atm.  I've tried a barb and witch doctor, both we're alright, just didnt quite do it for me.  I'll have a 150-200mil budget. 

It seems Sweeping Wind Cyclone is pretty integral to a monk build...will the tornadoes keep spawning as fast as you crit, or is there a maximum at some point?  Basically asking, is there some aps and cc I should aim to achieve, get as much as possible, or just worry about dps when considering gear.

How much LoH or Lifesteal should I aim for?


No maximum number for the cyclones. As long as you crit, it spawns.

With your budget, you will be able to get something between 50k and possibly 100k.

If you go above +70k-80k unbuffed dmg, you really just need a little bit of LOH or Lifesteal. Even 300 loh should be good enough since you are literally melting down the mobs.

I have 65k unbuffed dmg with 500 loh, and I never have any problem getting back the life because I kill things really fast and they drop health globes.

So, don't worry about the life regen sources, just worry about getting up the dmg as much as possible.

With your type of budget, you can possibly get VERY high dmg. :)

Should be fun man. Happy shopping!
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Sep 18 2012 04:17pm
Quote (jcaru9 @ Sep 18 2012 02:53pm)
I recently switched my offhand to an axe with 1.3 aps. mainly because it had crit and a socket with loh. I seem to be doing a little better as far as keeping life up even with the slower axe. I used to use a fist weapon on offhand but it had no base crit dmg. I'm hoping to upgrade to soon to another fist http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/smileandwave-1893/hero/6255186


Don't ever get a weapon with aps below 1.4 at least. You can only do that when you are wearing godly legendary items all over which give you massive attack speed buff. You only have 7% attack speed affix on your ring. That's it.

If you hit faster, you proc more LOH and LL, if you have any. So, using a weapon with 1.3aps gives you back less life than with 1.4 or 1.5aps because you are not hitting less per second.

Not only that, you generate more spirit with faster weapons.

Please do not overlook the benefit of having a fast weapons. XD


This is my monk. It puts out like 2.1aps total. FUN!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KimSulki84-1308/hero/7645093

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Sep 18 2012 05:07pm
Quote (smackme @ Sep 18 2012 02:45am)
actually, I was doing a3 pretty smoothly with 28k life/ 35k dps/ 2.9ls and ~400 loh and 700res, just before I bought Inna's.
Same weapons etc.

With Innas my res are at 300 range, let's see how it turns out, didn't have a chance to play my monk this morning.

LS is good with ~40k dps range but you still need ~500-700 loh IMHO.


That extra 100 res makes a huge difference. I literally have EXACTLY 600 res without my shield...pretty low. I don't really want to spend 5m on an experiment that I'm pretty sure won't work, no offense. I don't think I have the gear for dual wield. I do have 600 LoH on my MH but it's 1.3.

Now act 2, that's a joke. I can destroy that dual wield. But I would really rather be doing a3, the loot sucks crap balls in a2 in comparison. At least that's what it feels like.

I'll keep looking for a snipe or cheap buyout of a 1.4 with good ls/CDMG/os but they are pricey. Without the os and base CDMG I lose so much dps off using my shield it seems really counter intuitive.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kylezo-1560/hero/933168

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Sep 18 2012 05:36pm
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That extra 100 res makes a huge difference. I literally have EXACTLY 600 res without my shield...pretty low. I don't really want to spend 5m on an experiment that I'm pretty sure won't work, no offense. I don't think I have the gear for dual wield. I do have 600 LoH on my MH but it's 1.3.

Now act 2, that's a joke. I can destroy that dual wield. But I would really rather be doing a3, the loot sucks crap balls in a2 in comparison. At least that's what it feels like.

I'll keep looking for a snipe or cheap buyout of a 1.4 with good ls/CDMG/os but they are pricey. Without the os and base CDMG I lose so much dps off using my shield it seems really counter intuitive.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kylezo-1560/hero/933168


No offense. But your monk need to be re-geared or something. Your armor/res are very low considering you are using a shield.

I started my monk as a sword and shield long time ago. I had like +30k dmg/+9000 armor/+900 res/40k life/300 LOH. It was pretty tanky but wasn't much fun.

Now that I have my monk with +65k dmg/+5000 armor/+650 res/30k life/500 LOH. It's much, much enjoyable to play.

If you are going to stick with the shield, you should try to up your tanky stats first. Just farm up and save up gold first.
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Sep 18 2012 05:43pm
Quote (jinshin85 @ Sep 18 2012 03:36pm)
No offense. But your monk need to be re-geared or something. Your armor/res are very low considering you are using a shield.

I started my monk as a sword and shield long time ago. I had like +30k dmg/+9000 armor/+900 res/40k life/300 LOH. It was pretty tanky but wasn't much fun.

Now that I have my monk with +65k dmg/+5000 armor/+650 res/30k life/500 LOH. It's much, much enjoyable to play.

If you are going to stick with the shield, you should try to up your tanky stats first. Just farm up and save up gold first.


None taken, that's why I'm posting in this thread...although "re-geared or something" isn't really very helpful...lol.

I have 6.6k armor and 720 res all..that's not really that bad. I have bracers that take me to 800 res all but I lose like 2k dps.

so, 41k health, 720-800 res all, 35-40k dps...that's been tanky enough for a3 with a few deaths here and there.

I don't want to use the shield, I *have* to. I've saved up about 15m gold over the last week and half, and I figured it was about time to post and ask what I should look at upgrading first.

I did buy a 1.61 700 LoH dagger and a 3%ll 1.4 offhand...it was a terrible idea, like I expected. I was at like 585 res all..terrible. dps was still about 40k though.

Anyways, with that said, how much are you suggesting I save up? And what should I look at upgrading first?
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Sep 18 2012 06:01pm
Quote (kylezo @ Sep 18 2012 04:43pm)
None taken, that's why I'm posting in this thread...although "re-geared or something" isn't really very helpful...lol.

I have 6.6k armor and 720 res all..that's not really that bad. I have bracers that take me to 800 res all but I lose like 2k dps.

so, 41k health, 720-800 res all, 35-40k dps...that's been tanky enough for a3 with a few deaths here and there.

I don't want to use the shield, I *have* to. I've saved up about 15m gold over the last week and half, and I figured it was about time to post and ask what I should look at upgrading first.

I did buy a 1.61 700 LoH dagger and a 3%ll 1.4 offhand...it was a terrible idea, like I expected. I was at like 585 res all..terrible. dps was still about 40k though.

Anyways, with that said, how much are you suggesting I save up? And what should I look at upgrading first?


Shoot.. didn't know you were asking for advice. I thought you just like being a shield monk for some reason.

I'll take a look at everything and give you some pointers tonight. I'm at work lurking in the threads. haha

BTW, 15mil is more enough for you to get more tanky stats to go dual wield! You will have fun, I promise!

This post was edited by jinshin85 on Sep 18 2012 06:02pm
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