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May 30 2013 03:36am
Quote (Shawnyboy @ May 30 2013 05:08am)
No... That's using WKL...

Also this number doesn't include buffed attack speed right?

So with blazing fists I need 2% more to hit 4.0001


yeah, thats what i said .23 EF + WKL?


I have a barb at the 2.14 bp so that when i go into wrath, i skip over the 2.2 what ever BP and go straight to the 2.5 bp.

I find this incredibly annoying when im not in wrath because of the desparity between the 2 attack speeds.

in the same way getting only 2% would leave you at your current bp but let you skip up to 4 aps bp when you have blazing fists up, thus you might find the difference between when you have blazing fists up and when you dont such that youll want to go out and get the other 3% so you can hit the 3.75 bp with out blazing fists.

so yes you could get 2% attack speed and hit the 4.0 bp when you have blazing fists up, but you might find yourself still wanting to hit the 3.75 when you dotn have the blazing fists up.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on May 30 2013 03:37am
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May 30 2013 03:41am
Quote (Ylem122 @ May 30 2013 02:36am)
yeah, thats what i said .23 EF + WKL?


I have a barb at the 2.14 bp so that when i go into wrath, i skip over the 2.2 what ever BP and go straight to the 2.5 bp.

I find this incredibly annoying when im not in wrath because of the desparity between the 2 attack speeds.

in the same way getting only 2% would leave you at your current bp but let you skip up to 4 aps bp when you have blazing fists up, thus you might find the difference between when you have blazing fists up and when you dont such that youll want to go out and get the other 3% so you can hit the 3.75 bp with out blazing fists.

so yes you could get 2% attack speed and hit the 4.0 bp when you have blazing fists up, but you might find yourself still wanting to hit the 3.75 when you dotn have the blazing fists up.


No still... Rare sword and WKL lol

I have blazing up 99% of the time so it's not really an issue... Kinda wanna hit the 4.0001 now
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May 30 2013 04:15am
Quote (Shawnyboy @ May 30 2013 05:41am)
No still... Rare sword and WKL lol

I have blazing up 99% of the time so it's not really an issue... Kinda wanna hit the 4.0001 now


so your at like 59% ias+ 15% for dw?
3.654 for wkl
3.915 for dagger

= 3.78 aps

you could just get a dagger hitting the 3.75 bp with out blazing fists.

3.96 + 4.25 =8.21/2= 4.1 though with blazing fists youd still only be hitting the 4 aps bp.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on May 30 2013 04:21am
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May 30 2013 04:35am
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/jackherrer-2632/Pow/5160475

What shall I upgrade next!!!!?

I want

200 k dps
1m ehp
Dual life leach

This post was edited by jackherer on May 30 2013 04:43am
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May 30 2013 04:56am
I'm a bit confused by this

Doesn't blazing fists use one weapon to attack then the other? but people seem to be worried about the breakpoint of the average attack speed which isn't actually used in the game

Also as you said there is no incremental speed increase and the game averages it out over time
You won't be able to tell the difference of 1 frame ever so often at 60 per second, the whole thing about breakpoints is ridiculous in the first place, your attack speed doesn't suddenly become good at 3.75!

It's something that could have been ignored for d3 but people wanted to dig it back up for nostalgia i suppose

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May 30 2013 05:04am
Quote (dakariii @ May 30 2013 06:56am)
I'm a bit confused by this

Doesn't blazing fists use one weapon to attack then the other? but people seem to be worried about the breakpoint of the average attack speed which isn't actually used in the game

Also as you said there is no incremental speed increase and the game averages it out over time
You won't be able to tell the difference of 1 frame ever so often at 60 per second, the whole thing about breakpoints is ridiculous in the first place, your attack speed doesn't suddenly become good at 3.75!

It's something that could have been ignored for d3 but people wanted to dig it back up for nostalgia i suppose


its more so in the consistency, while the game compensates, at the break points the frame rate is consistent. 55,51,48,45, ect

This post was edited by Ylem122 on May 30 2013 05:05am
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May 30 2013 05:14am
Quote (Ylem122 @ May 30 2013 03:15am)
so your at like 59% ias+ 15% for dw?
3.654 for wkl
3.915 for dagger

= 3.78 aps

you could just get a dagger hitting the 3.75 bp with out blazing fists.

3.96 + 4.25 =8.21/2= 4.1 though with blazing fists youd still only be hitting the 4 aps bp.


I was looking for a dagger but can't find a comparable one... Buying another sword

I could easily get 2% attack speed though

Only 8% on ring, 7% gloves, and 7% ammy

Non blazing fists is kinda negligible
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May 30 2013 05:23am
and having a consistent frame rates is important because?

its not like you're there thinking, 18 frames per attack with my left weapon, 18, 18, 18, that one was 19! damn these inconsistent attack speeds!

meanwhile people are rubber-banding half way across the screen


not to mention the 3rd attack with fot takes way longer throwing things off further

if you are ocd enough to worry about the number on rawr wow then great but I don't think you can pretend its for a noticeable change to character :)

This post was edited by dakariii on May 30 2013 05:25am
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May 30 2013 05:50am
Quote (dakariii @ May 30 2013 04:23am)
and having a consistent frame rates is important because?

its not like you're there thinking, 18 frames per attack with my left weapon, 18, 18, 18, that one was 19! damn these inconsistent attack speeds!

meanwhile people are rubber-banding half way across the screen


not to mention the 3rd attack with fot takes way longer throwing things off further

if you are ocd enough to worry about the number on rawr wow then great but I don't think you can pretend its for a noticeable change to character :)


I'm pretty OCD

In diablo 2 I paid 1900 fg for a call to arms that was 100% perfect including ED...

Instead of 80 for a 6/6/4 3 hs
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May 30 2013 06:07am
Quote (jackherer @ May 30 2013 10:35am)
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/jackherrer-2632/Pow/5160475

What shall I upgrade next!!!!?

I want

200 k dps
1m ehp
Dual life leach


HOLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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