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Sep 7 2012 12:46am
Quote (krzyhoo @ Sep 6 2012 10:42pm)
i'm doing full a3 farm with friends and we do all locations (including dungeons) clearing whole map, its like 2.5 -3 hours :)
you can't ever run this in 1 hour without mobs:)


I do barracks 1,2,3, rakkis, siegebreaker up to azmodan, takes 45 minutes to an hour and I'm not geared at all. You're doing it wrong if it takes 3 hours do to A3...maybe it's the extra health from 4 player? Idk, DPS should balance that out...
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Sep 7 2012 12:50am
im posting this here so maybe someone will help me out abit with my monk



I am trying to figure out what .% of life leech = what # life on hit for my monk

this is hard first off because i suck at math and also because there is so much off screen damage with monks because of sweeping wind(does this even get life leech?) and won khim lau % increase and 48% from aura

so please help me out with some calculations assuming I have 40k dps on screen and 25% crit chance

i use 48% from aura and 21% on my won khim (not sure what all this effects) and use cyclones (not sure if i get leech from this)

thanks!

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Sep 7 2012 12:57am
Quote (zoombax @ Sep 6 2012 08:50pm)
im posting this here so maybe someone will help me out abit with my monk



I am trying to figure out what .% of life leech = what # life on hit for my monk

this is hard first off because i suck at math and also because there is so much off screen damage with monks because of sweeping wind(does this even get life leech?) and won khim lau % increase and 48% from aura

so please help me out with some calculations assuming I have 40k dps on screen and 25% crit chance

i use 48% from aura and 21% on my won khim (not sure what all this effects) and use cyclones (not sure if i get leech from this)

thanks!


get both loh and life steal.
problem solved.
dont cry its expensive. monks arent suppose to be cheap. They one the most expensive classes to gear up.

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Sep 7 2012 12:59am
Quote (ButtPirate7 @ 7 Sep 2012 08:57)
get both loh and life steal.
problem solved.
dont cry its expensive.  monks arent suppose to be cheap.  They one the most expensive classes to gear up.


stupid post is stupid... if you cant help him dont post...

i wanna know what he ask to
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Sep 7 2012 01:02am
Quote (kylezo @ Sep 6 2012 08:45pm)
Ok, well if you're gonna get defensive...

A. Dual wield is NOT "useless glass cannon", I gave you legit advice re: dual wielding. Get an OH with LoH, CHD, oh, dual wield dodge passive, and you're evening out or even adding to survivability over a shield PLUS the added bonus of "killed that group before they laid down one plague pool" which = survivability.

2. Re: pvp, he's right. If you are pissed about not getting explanations, how about what the fuck does this build have to do with pvp? You talking about your gear? Great, if you think it's good pvp gear, throw it in your stash and put on some farming gear for what you're actually doing. Just practicing with abilities you think will be used in arenas? I can dig that, but again, we have no idea what it's gonna look like.

B. Like I said, I like dashing strike too, but I find I don't NEED it and there are other, more valuable, skills that could take it's spot. In the cookie cutter build, that spot would be taken up with blind for CC and burst dps, but if you really REALLY feel like thunderclap isn't enough mobility for you to avoid freezes (plus 4/20 seconds being invincible..), maybe put in SSS. It can easily be timed to cancel out frost explosions, plus you're looking at TONS of damage going out with fulminating onslaught, or the 7 sec CC rune, lots of options there. Idk, I'd just consider trying other things in that slot. My build is changing all the time so I'm not married to anything either really.

Lastly, Do you not use followers at all? They are all naked on your profile but I'm not sure if that's a glitch or what. Lots of utility there for single player.

And secondly, I stole this bit from Shakespeare.

to the dude that you were talkin to about needin dashin strike to avoide ice bombs...
i had 0% movement speed and can avoid them manually just fine. All about placing yourself to be able to escape (aka dont corner yourself). I now have 12%ms and it makes it feel like a joke for me to avoid them now lol. I can only imagine what you guys with like 24% and higher movement speed feel :0

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Sep 7 2012 01:04am
Quote (ButtPirate7 @ Sep 7 2012 03:02am)
to the dude that you were talkin to about needin dashin strike to avoide ice bombs...
i had 0% movement speed and can avoid them manually just fine.  All about placing yourself to be able to escape (aka dont corner yourself).  I now have 12%ms and it makes it feel like a joke for me to avoid them now lol.  I can only imagine what you guys with like 24% and higher movement speed feel :0


lol... I don't even wanna play unless I'm running 34% ms
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Sep 7 2012 01:10am
Quote (ButtPirate7 @ Sep 7 2012 02:57am)
get both loh and life steal.
problem solved.
dont cry its expensive. monks arent suppose to be cheap. They one the most expensive classes to gear up.


This.

LOH dosnt proc per monster but per hit, and aoe is counted as 1 hit, so with fot/tc your getting 1 110% dmg hit and 1 35% dmg aoe hit. combine this with the FOT/TC Coefficient of 75% it means that if your attack hits 1 monster or 40 monsters its still only 1 hit for the attack and 1 hit for the aoe part of the attack. so with the first 2 attacks the most life from loh per attack you can get is 150% your loh, with the third strike there is fot aoe and tc aoe dmg so you get 225% your loh with the third strike.

comparably Life steal is all dmg done, so if your hitting 40 monsters for 10k dmg each thats 400k dmg that you are leeching from for a total of 2400 life healed.

this means that vs large mobs when you have 30k+ dps, life steal is much better then loh, but with smaller groups like 1 vs 1-3 LOH comes out ontop.

if you get both, you are very well suited for large and small mobs.
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Sep 7 2012 01:17am
Quote (Ylem122 @ Sep 6 2012 09:10pm)
This.

LOH dosnt proc per monster but per hit, and aoe is counted as 1 hit, so with fot/tc your getting 1 110% dmg hit and 1 35% dmg aoe hit.  combine this with the FOT/TC Coefficient of 75% it means that if your attack hits 1 monster or 40 monsters its still only 1 hit for the attack and 1 hit for the aoe part of the attack. so with the first 2 attacks the most life from loh per attack you can get is 150% your loh, with the third strike there is fot aoe and tc aoe dmg so you get 225% your loh with the third strike.

comparably Life steal is all dmg done, so if your hitting 40 monsters for 10k dmg each thats 400k dmg that you are leeching from for a total of 2400 life healed.

this means that vs large mobs when you have 30k+ dps, life steal is much better then loh, but with smaller groups like 1 vs 1-3 LOH comes out ontop.

if you get both, you are very well suited for large and small mobs.


thank you sir.
now sandied can get the sand out of his vagina and see why no need explanation.

both are needed for different situations.
life steal for a mini life per second effect as long as your sweepin wind is active and you are in melee range. SO to the dude that asked. yes you need life steal % so you can heal from your sweepin wind. It is said loh does work with the cyclone part of the attack.
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Sep 7 2012 01:45am
Quote (ButtPirate7 @ 7 Sep 2012 09:17)
thank you sir.
now sandied can get the sand out of his vagina and see why no need explanation.

both are needed for different situations.
life steal for a mini life per second effect as long as your sweepin wind is active and you are in melee range.  SO to the dude that asked.  yes you need life steal % so you can heal from your sweepin wind.  It is said loh does work with the cyclone part of the attack.


still useless post nobody want to get life on hit and life steal becouse you will lose out on so mush when you get both on a weapon

and he did ask how mush dmg is needed to get life on hit to be the same as 3% life steal not that he need both that was not what he asked
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Sep 7 2012 01:50am
Quote (Zodiac @ Sep 7 2012 08:04am)
lol... I don't even wanna play unless I'm running 34% ms


I just began using Fleet Footed (the +10% ms passive), and it's just so much more awesome than running with 24, 12 and especially 0%.

I used to run with 0% ms not more than a few weeks ago, and my act 3 farming doesn't take much longer than 40 minutes for Battlefields->keeps 1+3->Rakkis Crossing->Siegebreaker->Azmodan. It usually took more than an hour before I got a few dps upgrades and the huge ms upgrade :)
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